Norwegian Black Metal VS US black metal

CanwllCorfe · 02-08-2009, 11:00 PM

ahh yeah they are pretty good too! Along with Kroda, forgot about them

Lordmychol · 05-13-2011, 07:22 AM

You know I'm from the USA damn proud of it too, but when it comes to black metal Norway has a lock on it!!! I think it is because mostly not a lack of talent, no it is a culture thing. History wise as the Satanic thing/ Pagan things goes Norway was invade by Christainty, had the old ways pushed out, so these bands either locked on to the whole Satan thing or Pagan thing, and they really truely mean it. As in here, we bought the Christ germs with us, now yeah sure alot of us have a dislike for the church, it is not because it came and took over your land, unless you are a Native American. See where I'm going yeah the bands in the states may sound great, look the part etc, but they to me just don't have the feel, that isthe best way I can think to put it.

hip hop bunny hop · 05-13-2011, 09:11 AM

That makes no sense. None at all. If you're a White American (or Brazilian, Canadian, etc.) - your ancestors native culture was destroyed by Christianity just as the Norwegians were. We come from the same ****ing place; the difference being those of us in the New World had Ancestors hop on a bought and come to a land where plains Indians got about by lashing their **** to a dog and walking.

.......

Anyways, a few notable bands aside (Burzum, Immortal), I don't care too much for melodic black metal, which was the dominate Norwegian style untill.... well, it probably still is.

New World Black Metal bands I approve of: Bone Awl, Blasphemy, Order from Chaos, Sarco***o, Ancestors, Angelcorpse, Black Witchery, Conqueror, Revenge, Havohej

BastardofYoung · 05-13-2011, 12:57 PM

Norweigan. It is better. While most Black Metal is mindless garbage, Norway atleast had some of the better ones.

Obsessonaut · 05-13-2011, 02:30 PM

Norwegian black metal gets my vote. Also prefer norwegian black 'n' roll, Kvelertak is a prime example of the genre at it's best if I do say so myself.

ManifestBlasphemy666 · 03-25-2018, 10:44 AM

I'm a bit disappointed by the under representation of USBM in this thread....really guys Wolves in the Throne Room?.

Thy Infernal
Black Witchery
Absu
UADA
Cult of Unholy Shadows
Hellfire Deathcult
Abazagorath
Thornspawn
Kult ov Azazel
Hellvetron
Void Meditation Cult
Irreverent
Manticore
Baphomets Horns
Morbosidad
Thy Antichrist
Cult of Daath
Winter of Apokalypse
Demoncy
Profanatica
Ceremony
Teratism
Unhuman Disease
Sothis

The Batlord · 03-25-2018, 11:41 AM

The only Teratism I need.

mythsofmetal · 03-25-2018, 03:49 PM

I probably prefer Norway to USA, but I still have a lot of exploring to do and for the past 2 years I've been less checking out new bands, and more checking out unknown releases from known bands.

Germany and Sweden are also contenders when it comes to favourite black metal countries personally. I've heard Finland and Iceland are also good for bm, but I haven't really looked into them yet. My fav German bm band is Nocte Obducta, and while they're pretty folk/viking my favourite Swedish bm band is probably Manegarm.

These following countries aren't contenders due to lower (known to me) quantity of great bands, but Canada (Dark Forest, Mitochondrion), Austria (Summoning, Mondstille), Hungary (Thy Catafalque, Sear Bliss, Bornholm), France (Blut aus Nord), Switzerland (Samael), Italy (Janvs), Greece (Rotting Christ), Poland, Ukraine (Nokturnal Mortum), and Russia (Grey Heaven Fall) all have at least one black metal band I like quite a bit. I'm probably forgetting something, but that's it for now.

**Frownland** · 03-25-2018, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mythsofmetal

Nocte Obducta
Mitochondrion
Blut aus Nord

Good shouts, three excellent groups for sure.

Quote:

Thy Catafalque

I've tried a few times to get into them and they just don't do it for me. I could very well be missing something so I'm willing to return to them. Which album of theirs should I check out?

As per the OP I don't really pay attention to geography that much when I'm exploring music so I couldn't tell you.

mythsofmetal · 03-25-2018, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

Good shouts, three excellent groups for sure.

I've tried a few times to get into them and they just don't do it for me. I could very well be missing something so I'm willing to return to them. Which album of theirs should I check out?

As per the OP I don't really pay attention to geography that much when I'm exploring music so I couldn't tell you.

Thy Catafalque's first two releases are their most clearly black metal ones, I still need to buy their early works collection because I own all their albums except those two and the other release that came with them. Since Tuno Ido Tarlat they've been much less bm focused usually, still I'll rec a couple recent TC songs.

I would recommend Ashes Dance from Sublunary Tragedies, The Sileni Sylvans and Fauns from Microcosmos, Sgurr Eilde Mor from Sgurr, and this track from his newest album.

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05-13-2011, 07:22 AM	#42 (permalink)
Lordmychol Groupie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 4	Norwegian black metal hands down!!! You know I'm from the USA damn proud of it too, but when it comes to black metal Norway has a lock on it!!! I think it is because mostly not a lack of talent, no it is a culture thing. History wise as the Satanic thing/ Pagan things goes Norway was invade by Christainty, had the old ways pushed out, so these bands either locked on to the whole Satan thing or Pagan thing, and they really truely mean it. As in here, we bought the Christ germs with us, now yeah sure alot of us have a dislike for the church, it is not because it came and took over your land, unless you are a Native American. See where I'm going yeah the bands in the states may sound great, look the part etc, but they to me just don't have the feel, that isthe best way I can think to put it.

05-13-2011, 09:11 AM	#43 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	That makes no sense. None at all. If you're a White American (or Brazilian, Canadian, etc.) - your ancestors native culture was destroyed by Christianity just as the Norwegians were. We come from the same **ing place; the difference being those of us in the New World had Ancestors hop on a bought and come to a land where plains Indians got about by lashing their to a dog and walking. ....... Anyways, a few notable bands aside (Burzum, Immortal), I don't care too much for melodic black metal, which was the dominate Norwegian style untill.... well, it probably still is. New World Black Metal bands I approve of: Bone Awl, Blasphemy, Order from Chaos, Sarco*o, Ancestors, Angelcorpse, Black Witchery, Conqueror, Revenge, Havohej __________________ Have mercy on the poor.

05-13-2011, 12:57 PM	#44 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Norweigan. It is better. While most Black Metal is mindless garbage, Norway atleast had some of the better ones. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

03-25-2018, 10:44 AM	#46 (permalink)
ManifestBlasphemy666 Non Serviam Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: ThaiHell Posts: 620	I'm a bit disappointed by the under representation of USBM in this thread....really guys Wolves in the Throne Room?. Thy Infernal Black Witchery Absu UADA Cult of Unholy Shadows Hellfire Deathcult Abazagorath Thornspawn Kult ov Azazel Hellvetron Void Meditation Cult Irreverent Manticore Baphomets Horns Morbosidad Thy Antichrist Cult of Daath Winter of Apokalypse Demoncy Profanatica Ceremony Teratism Unhuman Disease Sothis Last edited by ManifestBlasphemy666; 03-25-2018 at 11:02 AM.

02-08-2009, 11:00 PM	#41 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	ahh yeah they are pretty good too! Along with Kroda, forgot about them

05-13-2011, 02:30 PM	#45 (permalink)
Obsessonaut Groupie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3	Norwegian black metal gets my vote. Also prefer norwegian black 'n' roll, Kvelertak is a prime example of the genre at it's best if I do say so myself.

03-25-2018, 03:49 PM	#48 (permalink)
mythsofmetal Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 207	I probably prefer Norway to USA, but I still have a lot of exploring to do and for the past 2 years I've been less checking out new bands, and more checking out unknown releases from known bands. Germany and Sweden are also contenders when it comes to favourite black metal countries personally. I've heard Finland and Iceland are also good for bm, but I haven't really looked into them yet. My fav German bm band is Nocte Obducta, and while they're pretty folk/viking my favourite Swedish bm band is probably Manegarm. These following countries aren't contenders due to lower (known to me) quantity of great bands, but Canada (Dark Forest, Mitochondrion), Austria (Summoning, Mondstille), Hungary (Thy Catafalque, Sear Bliss, Bornholm), France (Blut aus Nord), Switzerland (Samael), Italy (Janvs), Greece (Rotting Christ), Poland, Ukraine (Nokturnal Mortum), and Russia (Grey Heaven Fall) all have at least one black metal band I like quite a bit. I'm probably forgetting something, but that's it for now.