Apparently I have their debut on my hard drive but forget about them. I'll raise you...

Riverside ,, Lament'' 2018
Check it out ! ;)


https://youtu.be/4Wqlts7QWA8

The new UNE MISÈRE album just dropped ! Incredible album !

Is there a death metal or grindcore band who did what Bad Brains did for punk for the most brutal of extreme metal? A group of jazz musicians whose technical skill took their chosen genre's potential for sonic violence to a new level via their technical proficiency that allowed them to play at speed with proficiency that non-jazz musicians simply can't? I'm looking for a band who do not use their jazz proficiency to noodle about with metallic jazz fusion, but a band who can out-None So Vile Cryptopy via their ability to play more precisely.

Gorguts. Though I guess they're more like modern classical/serialism musicians taking on death metal than jazz musicians.

I also never heard the jazz in The Shining's Blackjazz, it always seemed more like metal made by jazz competent musicians (same goes for Cynic). Maybe that's more what you're looking for.

Again, I'm not looking for jazz being injected into death metal. I'm looking for jazz musician proficiency taking death metal to another level like how Bad Brains did for hardcore while not actually sounding anything like jazz.

That's...exactly what I just recommended to you. I guess the jazz influence on Cynic is arguable.

Nah. I want a straight up death metal or grindcore pure extreme metal band with jazz chops that most extreme metal bands don't have that takes extremity to a new level. I don't want jazz influence. I'm looking for something to, as I said, out-None So Vile Cryptopsy.

I'm just kind of hoping that this exists and if it doesn't I'm not looking for something that meets vaguely that criterion.

Good luck then. I don't see what these "jazz chops" can bring to the table without introducing jazz elements/dynamics/philosophy since death metal already has such technical performances.