^^vainglorious as usual

I hate to disappoint!

Very good stuff
 

Early Blue Oyster Cult, Black Sabbath, Lamb Of God, Between The Buried And Me, Fair To Midland, Early Deep Purple, all of these are very good!

I agree with you US, but why do they get so much hate? People find them boring and I just don't get it because I think they're great hard rock, the best thing hard rock currently has going actually.

I dunno, the only album of theirs i can tolerate is Vs

i dislike draggy vocals and the staggered riffs

A lot of people hate something thats too popular and at times too commercial and Pearl Jam fall into this category, as far as a classic rock bands go the band tick all the correct boxes. For example, Nirvana get the dislike/overrated tag about 60% of the time on these forums. I`m sure if Nirvana had happened to a be a lesser well known/obscure band, then most people on here would be in love with them and singing their praises.:pssst:

i love Nirvana

You`re in the sensible 40%:D

Isn't that the nature of being overrated?

That`s just the point, I never saw Nirvana as ever being overrated but being rated just about right for their quality and originality (yep you heard right, I said originality!) Problem was that most people fell in love with them and thats where the overrated tag first came in from rocksters etc. The whole thing got worse, when all the popsters quickly fell in love with them as well, which was most startling, as most of these people wouldn`t have listened to anything as loud or abrasive as Nirvana in a million years under normal circumstances, but thanks to the massive publicity the band got back in the 90s they appealed to most people. I remember vividly as well, back when Nevermind first came out and the videos of the first singles off that album were also on TV, the amount of people that become Nirvana fans overnight was startling and these were people that wouldn`t have normally listened to anything much heavier than say a Bon Jovi or Dire Straits record!

Bands like Nirvana, Led Zeppelin (popsters wouldn`t really dig them) and the Beatles etc are rated just right imo as being amongst the best of their generation, which automatically puts them in the firing line for getting the overrated label.

and you think pj fall into this category?

In PJ`s case no, I think its more of an acquired taste to their type of sound which has all the trappings of classic hard rock from the 70`s and 80`s, whereas the Nirvana sound is much more of a hybrid of distinct sounds weaved in with cleverly constructed pop melodies (its the pop melodies that hooked the masses:laughing:) Also the Beatles and even Led Zeppelin are two bands that people can just put on their music and find something they`d like pretty quickly, whereas with PJ thats not really the case .

For a number years I thought PJ were a good band with a fantastic vocalist, but for me most of their stuff sounded like an unfinished jamming session in the recording studio with lyrics thrown in.

More recently I listened to their whole discography and the brilliance of the band finally clicked and everything Pearl Jam fans had been telling me all these years just clicked in. Very rarely do I make a complete u-turn with a band but in this case I did and for that reason PJ are a special band to me now.

Based on this logic I`d say PJ were an acquired taste, which doesn`t really qualify them for being overrated.

I'm prepared for the character assassination that could possibly come as a result of this recommendation, but here we go:



Apparently there is a movement within deathcore that is beginning to incorporate much more technical and progressive elements in its music than the trademark mindless, knuckle dragging breakdowns for which the genre is famous. There's a number of bands on a label called Sumerian Records that all have incredible talent and sound similar to the link above and yet have their own distinct sounds. I suppose the evolution within the genre could be likened to the birth of technical death metal in the 90's. The Meshuggah influence is pretty evident here, especially in the breakdowns (which are said to be played in rhythms of pi). So take a listen if you wish and respond!

I actually think it's great! Not necessarily because the music is spectacular (it is good not great, sounds pretty close to metalcore to me aside from vocals), but it is a fresh take on one of metal's worst genres. Finally deathcore without the monotonous breakdowns every three seconds like Emmure.

So whos the better band, Offspring or Oasis? (Weird combination I know)

I would take the first 2 Oasis albums over the entire Offspring discography.

i don't think there's any basis for comparison but i'll bite

i have more Oasis than Offspring if that answers your query at all

Need more songs!
 

Hey guys/girls. I'm lookin for some new songs to put on my ipod. I like bands like Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet For My Valentine, and All That Remains. If your into the same music and you know of bands and songs similar, then hit me up.

Every new/melodic metalcore band. They all sound the same.

Although I thought ABR's last album wasn't complete ****.

Unearth (start with The March album)
Killswitch Engage (their first album is easily the best but since you like A7X you would probably like the As Daylight Dies album)
As I Lay Dying (An Ocean Between Us album)

Does anyone know any bands that play music similar to this? It's from the movie The Wedding Singer.

So, I've been thinking of getting some essential nu metal (I have cravings every once in a while), and I FINALLY just got Korn's self-titled (what other Korn albums are worth it?) and was thinking of getting LP's Hybrid Theory or Slipknot's "Vol. 3". So which of these two is better and are they both essential nu-metal? Are they both the best albums of these respective bands? What are some other essential nu-metal albums by these and other bands?

While I doubt anyone would say it's an "essential" album I'd recommend you give Hypocrisy's 2002 album Catch 22 a try. The band was one of the early Swedish melodic death metal bands that managed to be up there in terms of heaviness with the regular death metal bands, yet still managed to ride the popularity of bands like At the Gates, Dark Tranquility, and In Flames. Catch 22 wasn't well received because a prominent melodeath metal band had "betrayed" their roots, but I think the album has a lot of potential and is easily one of the best albums to showcase nu metal's potential. Definitely don't expect it to sound like Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, Korn, or any of the really popular nu metal bands, however it does share a lot of parallels, particularly the drumming.

The album was remixed and later rereleased in 2008, however that version really strips away a lot of the nu metal sound, so I'd say check out the original 2002 version before trying the latter version.

That's death metal aint it?

Do you have any opinions on the other stuff I posted?

KoRn's Follow The Leader or Life Is Peachy are solid if you're into that sort of thing. Vol. 3 is a good record, but it's not really nu-metal as much as it alt metal (yes there is a difference). I'd still recommend it though. As for Linkin Park...no.

It's shit.

Hypocrisy is most definitely a death metal band, but the album that I recommended is more of a push towards nu metal, or at least experimenting with the nu metal sound, like the tin can sounding snare drum, the groove guitar riff, and the vocals are pretty restrained all things considered, at least compared to the band's actual death metal music.

Linkin Park are worthless. They never did any sort of blending of genres; all they did was applique the most obvious aspects of other genres unto a generic nu-metal template. The musicianship was pedestrian at best, the vision reactionary, and the lyrics puerile. Worthless band.

The general appeal of nu-metal, in my estimation, has to with how it conveyed crescendos in a simplistic & heavy manner. To this end, I'd recommend "Static-X" as the nu-metal band to check out. The songs are simplistic, as is the vision; but they accomplish it with gusto and sincerity. The self titled is their most widely regarded, and with reason - "Push It" is a nu-metal single that deserved the airplay it recieved. That these guys were cognizant of the broader underground music scene is acknowledged; the bassist is an avowed fan of Morbid Angel, and the lead man a fan of Ministry and industrial in general.

I wouldn't say they are the thinking man's nu-metal; but they are nu-metal the thinking man can enjoy.

I don`t actually think of that as one of the really good Hypocrisy albums. The best three imo are Abducted, The Final Chapter and Hypocrisy. The band were on their prime on these three albums.

"essential nu-metal" does not exist.

i'll defend both to the death

i thought you mentioned that LP was "whiny"?

Sounds accurate to me, Bennington's vocals are like ****ing nails on a chalkboard.

i don't like most of their other stuff, but i do like Hybrid Theory a lot

Nice and EPIC!!!

Album recommendations
 

My mind has hit a wall, I can't think of any more albums to download. I need some help. I don't really like scream-o music. Other than that, I'm open to any kind of rock.

Please Help

It would help if you narrowed it down a bit, like rock genre, style, bands that you already like, decade etc

Can anyone recommend some good unknown bands of the 60s and early 70s era?

Oh yes I can.

Dust


Toad


Hard Stuff


Bang


Granicus


Power of Zeus


I know many more...

I agree with all of this. About Linkin Park (Anyone ever noticed that "One Step Closer" doesn't really get played anymore, even though all their other old **** still does? It's because "One Step Closer" is one of the most hilariously bad songs ever written. I heard it the other day and I was almost in tears laughing at it. The only thing worse is "Dropping Plates" by Disturbed.), about Static-X (sort of like death metal toned down and simplified almost to the point of brainlessness, but still pretty sweet) , and about nu-metal in general.

Oh and if anyone cares to actually hear Dropping Plates, it's worth your time as comedy.

DROPPIN' PLATES ON YOUR ASS BITCH! Wtf does that even mean?

Static X just reminded me of a Poor Mans Fear Factory fronted by a Slim Jim.


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