Mr. Bungle? Meshuggah? Avant-Garde Metal! (dance, punk, favorite bands, albums)

333 · 03-25-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

i guess i'll be the first to say something about bungle besides OMG! BUNGLE!!!
mr. bungle is great and all but i really don't get how so many people classify them as any kind of metal. i suppose if you only listened to their demos and first album and skipped most of the 2nd you could but by the time the band was done they were very much their own style. the band proved this without any shadow of a doubt on 'california'.
i find that the bulk of bands who name drop bungle generally 'try' rehashing the apparent chaos of 'disco volante' without ever seeming to be capable of writing a complete song in just one style. that's what really set bungle apart for me, they were capable of pulling from all sorts of styles at the drop of a hat, AND they were also able to stick to one style for the duration of a whole song. a track like 'sweet charity' doesn't need a big metal breakdown in the middle for example.
i've yet to hear a bungle baby take that step, all i hear is a bunch of bits and pieces of stuff thrown together without any evidence there was anything else to the selections. conversely, most of the time those musical mosaics come across as glued together, there's no underlying sensation of the chaos just happening. it's calculated and at that point, no longer chaotic. i get the impression that more often than not the multitude of styles in most of the followers becomes more of a musical masturbatory measuring stick than anything necessary to propagate the musical piece.

Well-said, mr dave.

It took me a few times to get into Disco Volante and even more so their self-titled album, but by the second listen of California, I was hooked. You definitely have to acquire a taste for this kind of music, but I, too, do not consider this metal. I've never actually witnessed a 'bungle baby' myself, but such a project seems pointless to me. From watching online, I only have so much to say about Bungle's live performance; however, I truly see (in some videos) how much of their artistic ability to "[pull] from all sorts of styles at the drop of a hat" shines on stage. To mimic such a rarity, I believe, would be tragic.

I am guilty. I was not ready for Mr. Bungle when they arrived and by the time I was, they had long departed, leaving behind only the skin of what they evolved into as musicians. Now here's where Fantomas, Tomahawk, Lovage, Dillinger Escape Plan and Dog Fashion Disco. Though I prefer to get into those specifics at another time, anyone familiar with Lovage? It's another Patton project with producer Dan the Automator. He does vocals with the lovely Jennifer Charles. If you haven't heard it, it's definitely not metal, but worth the listen. Albums called Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By.

SATCHMO · 03-26-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 333

Lovage? It's another Patton project with producer Dan the Automator.

Iv'e heard about it as a DtA project. Didn't know Patton was involved?!?!?

333 · 03-26-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Iv'e heard about it as a DtA project. Didn't know Patton was involved?!?!?

He's on vocals ... Not sure if he produces any in this album. It involves lots of people. Lovage Check this out.

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard

Also don't forget Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and Abruptum.

Oh yes.

SATCHMO · 03-26-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 333

Lovage Check this out.

Yeah, It's gonna' be a while before I can wrap my head around that line up.

mr dave · 03-26-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 333

Well-said, mr dave.

I am guilty. I was not ready for Mr. Bungle when they arrived and by the time I was, they had long departed, leaving behind only the skin of what they evolved into as musicians. Now here's where Fantomas, Tomahawk, Lovage, Dillinger Escape Plan and Dog Fashion Disco. Though I prefer to get into those specifics at another time, anyone familiar with Lovage? It's another Patton project with producer Dan the Automator. He does vocals with the lovely Jennifer Charles. If you haven't heard it, it's definitely not metal, but worth the listen. Albums called Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By.

thanks,

Fantomas and DEP definitely fit into this thread. who's Dog Fashion Disco? never heard of them.

333 · 03-26-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Yeah, It's gonna' be a while before I can wrap my head around that line up.

Don't be scared. :P It's an easy-to-listen-to album. Each member involve seems to approach this project with subtlety, yet somehow remain quite powerful

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Originally Posted by mr dave

thanks,

Fantomas and DEP definitely fit into this thread. who's Dog Fashion Disco? never heard of them.

Really? Well, ****. Check out this review from of their last album by lucifer sam:

Adultery

mr dave · 03-26-2009, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 333

Really? Well, ****. Check out this review from of their last album by lucifer sam:

Adultery

yes

lucifer_sam · 03-26-2009, 01:16 PM

christ mother****ing almighty i posted that link four pages ago and you didn't pay any attention to it then. but listen to it, if you don't have it i'll be glad to up it for you.

i don't know if TDEP would fit into this thread, they have a very stratified structure to their songs. the only thing they really have is a link to mike patton and i think the material they produced without him is vastly superior (their last LP was orgasmic).

Terrible Lizard · 03-26-2009, 07:27 PM

Raccoo-oo-oon is a crazy band that dresses up like vikings and plays Beefheart inspired psychedelic gutter skull-****ing music. Good **** if you like your music freaky.

333 · 03-26-2009, 11:07 PM

For those of you who'd like to further explore Mr. Patton's work, here's a good start:

Works of Mike Patton

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333 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 965	For those of you who'd like to further explore Mr. Patton's work, here's a good start: Works of Mike Patton