Mr. Bungle? Meshuggah? Avant-Garde Metal! (lyrics, albums, doors, Kiss)

ElephantSack · 03-27-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

i guess i'll be the first to say something about bungle besides OMG! BUNGLE!!!

mr. bungle is great and all but i really don't get how so many people classify them as any kind of metal. i suppose if you only listened to their demos and first album and skipped most of the 2nd you could but by the time the band was done they were very much their own style. the band proved this without any shadow of a doubt on 'california'.

i find that the bulk of bands who name drop bungle generally 'try' rehashing the apparent chaos of 'disco volante' without ever seeming to be capable of writing a complete song in just one style. that's what really set bungle apart for me, they were capable of pulling from all sorts of styles at the drop of a hat, AND they were also able to stick to one style for the duration of a whole song. a track like 'sweet charity' doesn't need a big metal breakdown in the middle for example.

i've yet to hear a bungle baby take that step, all i hear is a bunch of bits and pieces of stuff thrown together without any evidence there was anything else to the selections. conversely, most of the time those musical mosaics come across as glued together, there's no underlying sensation of the chaos just happening. it's calculated and at that point, no longer chaotic. i get the impression that more often than not the multitude of styles in most of the followers becomes more of a musical masturbatory measuring stick than anything necessary to propagate the musical piece.

****in' A, man. Well put.
I got to see Mr. Bungle when I was 13. I had NO idea what I was seeing.
It wasn't until I turned 18 that I re-discovered them and they quickly became one of my all-time favorite bands.
I guess the whole reason they got lumped in with the metal brand was because metal bands were the only ones that would tour with them. They were so ****ing CRUEL on stage, it was hilarious. They would play "Sweet Charity" or "Vanity Fair" and then Patton would talk the most brutal **** at the crowd... at least when I saw them.
I do think they pulled out a cover of "Drug Me" by the Dead Kennedys, but even so, that's punk, not metal.
My own band covered "Retrovertigo", but only twice, because my singing abilities were still very shy at the time.

Mr Bungle.. Metal? Hell no. One of the heaviest bands ever? Yes.

And regarding your post about Fantomas... The Director's Cut is a brilliant little piece of work, is it not? Did you know that they demoed a cover of "What a Feeling" from Flashdance? It didn't make it on the album.

turbonacular · 03-27-2009, 07:56 PM

i would never call mr. bungle metal. hhaha

PinkCigarette · 03-27-2009, 08:08 PM

I liked Tomahawk. God Hates a Coward is my favourite song from them.

Mike Patton is a music god. His vocal range is amazing and he's incredibly talented and creative. Just hope FNM comes to NA.

SATCHMO · 03-27-2009, 08:47 PM

FNM is touring still/again !?!?!? W/Mike Patton?

333 · 03-27-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

FNM is touring still/again !?!?!? W/Mike Patton?

Looks like it.

Check it:
FNM Reunited
Tour Dates

LoathsomePete · 03-27-2009, 09:13 PM

As much as I like Faith No More they broke up 11 years ago, in that time frame Mike Patton has come out with so many good albums, Lovage, Peeping Tom, General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners, Fantamos, Tomahawk, etc. I would really like to see another Lovage and Peeping Tom album. I know Fantamos is suppose to have an album coming out sometime this year and I cannot wait. I guess what I'm saying is that to me Faith No More is over and I came to accept that and have grown to love what has followed since then and instead of indulging myself in nostalgia I want to hear what has come since then.

333 · 03-27-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect

As much as I like Faith No More they broke up 11 years ago, in that time frame Mike Patton has come out with so many good albums, Lovage, Peeping Tom, General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners, Fantamos, Tomahawk, etc. I would really like to see another Lovage and Peeping Tom album. I know Fantamos is suppose to have an album coming out sometime this year and I cannot wait. I guess what I'm saying is that to me Faith No More is over and I came to accept that and have grown to love what has followed since then and instead of indulging myself in nostalgia I want to hear what has come since then.

I love that album! I hear what you're saying, but wouldn't you just like to see them live at least once? Honestly, I'm thrilled about them getting back together, and I also love what he's come out with since FNM broke up. Like you, I'd like to hear more what he's got, but I believe its possible for him to put that same energy into FNM.

Edit: Check out the Mike Patton link above for some more of his side projects, if you haven't already that is. Pranzo Oltranzista is ****ing brilliant.

mr dave · 03-27-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect

As much as I like Faith No More they broke up 11 years ago, in that time frame Mike Patton has come out with so many good albums, Lovage, Peeping Tom, General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners, Fantamos, Tomahawk, etc. I would really like to see another Lovage and Peeping Tom album. I know Fantamos is suppose to have an album coming out sometime this year and I cannot wait. I guess what I'm saying is that to me Faith No More is over and I came to accept that and have grown to love what has followed since then and instead of indulging myself in nostalgia I want to hear what has come since then.

here's the thing though.... when's the last time you saw a new release from Ipecac records (Patton's label, the one that puts out all his side projects...)

FNM = $$$.

333 · 03-27-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

FNM = $$$.

.. yeah, I know.

LoathsomePete · 03-27-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

here's the thing though.... when's the last time you saw a new release from Ipecac records (Patton's label, the one that puts out all his side projects...)

FNM = $$$.

Sadly you're correct, tough economic times for us all.

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