Nu Metal

LOLPOCALYPSE · 08-22-2011, 07:33 PM

I agree with BoY here. Coal Chamber is definitely nu-metal

LOLPOCALYPSE · 08-22-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IWP

Nah, I know what you mean, I'm not nessacarily defending them, I'm just saying that I like them better than scene kids, simply, because they generally ain't as douchey. Alot of juggalos are junkies and some steal from friends, but not all of them are bad. I have like 2 or 3 self-described juggalo friends, and they're cool to chill with sometimes.

Can't we just agree to hate both groups?

IWP · 08-23-2011, 01:56 AM

Eh, I don't see why not. Both groups are full of asshats when you come to think about it.

And yeah, I've only listened to Coal Chamber's first album, and it's certainly pure nu metal. Haven't really listened to their other two albums yet though, so I can't be the judge on that. =P

Howard the Duck · 08-23-2011, 01:58 AM

it is from the best of my experience that metalheads often argue which sub-genre any band falls into, so erm?

BastardofYoung · 08-23-2011, 02:02 AM

Not arguing, correcting. Facts are facts, Coal Chamber are nu-metal. I do not think Metal fans have to argue anymore than nu-metal fans have to argue to try and remove their favorite bands from an applicable tag.

LOLPOCALYPSE · 08-23-2011, 06:51 AM

I could understand Il Duce's frustration though. Slipknot and Godsmack (both alt metal) are often given the nu metal tag, and receive unnecessary hatred because of it. The same thing happens to metalcore bands as well.

BastardofYoung · 08-23-2011, 11:02 AM

Naw, Slipknot recieves hatred cause they are awful, not because of what sub-genre they fall into.

Godsmack, yeah, would consider them alt-metal.

LOLPOCALYPSE · 08-23-2011, 01:00 PM

Just out of curiosity, what is it about Slipknot you don't like?

Mrd00d · 08-23-2011, 02:37 PM

I'm just gonna take a stab at the general reason people like me and perhaps these other folks don't like Slipknot is that their music isn't interesting or appealing enough... (ya know, personal opinion). And just because I feel like I might as well say it... enough to justify their get-ups...

I *could* listen to Before I Forget, but I'd rather listen to... something else. And that's the way I've felt about their songs when I heard them in the late 90s, too. Meh. Not awful. For example, I'd take Slipknot over most radio garbage like Nickelback, or pop or country music if those were the options. But I'd rather listen to anything else almost.

BastardofYoung · 08-23-2011, 02:43 PM

As is thie case with 99.999% of all nu-metal...

Horrible Lyrics that reek of lame teen angst. Nothing engaging about them at all. Just trivial and superficial lyrics about how life sucks and people suck and blah blah blah. Now I know some will say, you listen to Death Metal... difference is I do not listen to it for lyrics really.. In the case of a band like Slipknot, lyrics are important... I can not stand writing that feels like it is written around swearing and angst. That is the big one for me and Slipknot, awful songwriting. The music is meh as well, nothing special. I never get why people insist Joey Jordison is amongst the best drummers... Same as the people who insist Travis Barker is I suppose.

But all in all, boring band who just wrote bad lyrics over medicore music.

08-23-2011, 01:56 AM	#203 (permalink)
IWP A S T H E T I C Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 532	Eh, I don't see why not. Both groups are full of asshats when you come to think about it. And yeah, I've only listened to Coal Chamber's first album, and it's certainly pure nu metal. Haven't really listened to their other two albums yet though, so I can't be the judge on that. =P __________________ insert witty remark here

08-23-2011, 02:02 AM	#205 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Not arguing, correcting. Facts are facts, Coal Chamber are nu-metal. I do not think Metal fans have to argue anymore than nu-metal fans have to argue to try and remove their favorite bands from an applicable tag. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

08-23-2011, 11:02 AM	#207 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Naw, Slipknot recieves hatred cause they are awful, not because of what sub-genre they fall into. Godsmack, yeah, would consider them alt-metal. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

08-23-2011, 02:37 PM	#209 (permalink)
Mrd00d Stoned and Jammin' Out Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Northern California; Eugene, OR; mobile Posts: 1,602	I'm just gonna take a stab at the general reason people like me and perhaps these other folks don't like Slipknot is that their music isn't interesting or appealing enough... (ya know, personal opinion). And just because I feel like I might as well say it... enough to justify their get-ups... I could listen to Before I Forget, but I'd rather listen to... something else. And that's the way I've felt about their songs when I heard them in the late 90s, too. Meh. Not awful. For example, I'd take Slipknot over most radio garbage like Nickelback, or pop or country music if those were the options. But I'd rather listen to anything else almost. __________________ Mrd00d's Last.fm

08-23-2011, 02:43 PM	#210 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	As is thie case with 99.999% of all nu-metal... Horrible Lyrics that reek of lame teen angst. Nothing engaging about them at all. Just trivial and superficial lyrics about how life sucks and people suck and blah blah blah. Now I know some will say, you listen to Death Metal... difference is I do not listen to it for lyrics really.. In the case of a band like Slipknot, lyrics are important... I can not stand writing that feels like it is written around swearing and angst. That is the big one for me and Slipknot, awful songwriting. The music is meh as well, nothing special. I never get why people insist Joey Jordison is amongst the best drummers... Same as the people who insist Travis Barker is I suppose. But all in all, boring band who just wrote bad lyrics over medicore music. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

08-22-2011, 07:33 PM	#201 (permalink)
LOLPOCALYPSE Aryan Wonder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 445	I agree with BoY here. Coal Chamber is definitely nu-metal

08-23-2011, 06:51 AM	#206 (permalink)
LOLPOCALYPSE Aryan Wonder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 445	I could understand Il Duce's frustration though. Slipknot and Godsmack (both alt metal) are often given the nu metal tag, and receive unnecessary hatred because of it. The same thing happens to metalcore bands as well.

08-23-2011, 01:00 PM	#208 (permalink)
LOLPOCALYPSE Aryan Wonder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 445	Just out of curiosity, what is it about Slipknot you don't like?