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Old 05-07-2009, 04:56 PM   #91 (permalink)
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wow, i just listened to that damaged song and it sounds poorly recorded and there is no intensity in it all. It's not the worst music, but it definitely isn't on the same level as all that remains.

They sound nothing like all that remains, are you sure they influenced them?
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:59 PM   #92 (permalink)
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That's what hardcore is

And who cares how it was recorded, It was recorded cheaply in 1982 on a small record label so of course it's not going to be up to standard of big budget digital 2009 recordings.
It also happens to be one of the most influential albums from that genre. And if you don't think early Black Flag is intense you have no comprehension of the word.

Would you like to tell me how playing a guitar very fast in a state of the art digital recording studio is 'intense'?
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:02 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Well I guess since you guys knew hardcore before metalcore, you don't like it.

And I know that I won't grow out of it..I've loved BFMV for like 4 years.
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:03 PM   #94 (permalink)
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i smell a multi-page arguement coming......
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:03 PM   #95 (permalink)
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They sound nothing like all that remains, are you sure they influenced them?
Capt. Beefheart influenced tons of people but sure as hell no-one sounds like him.

I'm not an enormous Black Flag fan myself but you cant deny they were intense, just listen to My War and watch them live on youtube. Failing that try State of Alert, another band Henry Rollins was in.
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And I know that I won't grow out of it..I've loved BFMV for like 4 years.
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:07 PM   #97 (permalink)
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This is the intensity that Urban and I are alluding to. This is over 20 years old. Recorded in a week and the drummer is 14. Go to 1:45 and hear intense.

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Old 05-07-2009, 05:14 PM   #98 (permalink)
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like i said, the music is not bad, it's just outdated and the instruments sound stale. Of course, because it is nearly 30 years old.

People who like that stuff, and who are generally older ( mid 30's+ ) are most likely not going to respect the metalcore/hardcore genre at all. I can see why.

But, screw the influences, i listen to what sounds the best. I am a huge fan of riffs and solos and fast paced music, so i respect the older stuff, like old metallica ( kill em all ) and judas priest but i as much as i like them i just find metalcore and some of the other stuff being made today to be far superior instrumentally. It's what sounds better to me, even though some of the most skilled and influenced guitar players were making music 30 years ago, i still think bands now days can take music to a whole new level and sound better in almost every aspect.

Who thinks riffs and solos were better in 1985 compared to now days?

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Well I guess since you guys knew hardcore before metalcore, you don't like it.

And I know that I won't grow out of it..I've loved BFMV for like 4 years.
i still find it funny how some haters think that bullet are average musicians. They are definitely good at solos and they make decent guitar riffs, yet people call them emo and generic. Padge is a ****ing great guitarist, are you kidding me???
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:21 PM   #99 (permalink)
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^^^^^

This is 2005 and my old faithful video. It doesn't have to resort to cliched metalcore to be heavy:

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Old 05-07-2009, 05:25 PM   #100 (permalink)
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yes they do, but there drummer is very good and they have very nice riffs. There a love or hate band, lol
Acacia Strain is a much better band, and that's mostly what Parkway Drive is ripping off
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