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Pillowmint 08-13-2009 08:05 AM

Most Inaccessable Artists?
 
These are not limited to metal, but i think its safe to assume most of them are... Which artists do you find most difficult to get into (Not necessarily bad artists, just hard to get into)?

Xasthur has my vote

Janszoon 08-13-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillowmint (Post 719140)
These are not limited to metal, but i think its safe to assume most of them are...

Why would it be safe to assume that most inaccessible artists are metal? There's loads of experimental, avant-garde music out there that's far less accessible than someone like Xasthur.

Pillowmint 08-13-2009 10:59 AM

I suppose its just that most of them i have heard are metal... There certainly are other genres with inaccessible music

crash_override 08-13-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 719151)
Why would it be safe to assume that most inaccessible artists are metal? There's loads of experimental, avant-garde music out there that's far less accessible than someone like Xasthur.

Agreed.

I would have to say The Mars Volta for me, I have given this group so many listens trying to get into it. But it just really can't do it for me. I'm not sure what it is. I tried to like them. I really did.

5-Track 08-13-2009 11:05 AM

Fu****susha ...

Melt Banana ...

Grateful Dead

Violent & Funky 08-13-2009 01:30 PM

I don't listen to enough music to really give any "out there" answers, but the band I had the hardest time getting into was Mr. Bungle. I enjoy there first album as a whole, but that's really the only one I play on any kind of a regular basis...

Unknown Soldier 08-13-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 5-Track (Post 719189)
Fu****susha ...

Melt Banana ...

Grateful Dead

Grateful Dead are an odd group, essentially a folk rock group but in reality so much more, incorporating all differents types of music: country, psychedelic and jazz etc just to name a few. Also their live records are very different as well, with heavy jamming and plenty of musical improvisation. All in all an odd band.

Joking_ck 08-13-2009 04:05 PM

Aerosmith just never liked em

TumorAttitude 08-13-2009 04:07 PM

I'm also going with Grateful Dead.

Schredds 08-13-2009 04:08 PM

Alot of people might desagree with me, for me, its the White Stripes, no matter how hard I try it makes me cringe when I hear them.

Piss Me Off 08-13-2009 04:12 PM

I don't see why Aerosmith, the White Stripes and the like are being mentioned. Sure you may not like them but it's pretty obvious they have accessible tunes that a lot of people can and do like.

Schredds 08-13-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 719311)
I don't see why Aerosmith, the White Stripes and the like are being mentioned. Sure you may not like them but it's pretty obvious they have accessible tunes that a lot of people can and do like.

Maybe so, but its about what each individule thinks, Joking_ck thinks Aerosmith, which seems strange to me, but it is what it is, and I think White Stripes, there isnt anything about them that I like, I mean theres probably a ton of bands that I love and people find them inaccessible, thats what musics all about

TumorAttitude 08-13-2009 04:23 PM

Maybe for some people, artists stop being accesable when they get filthy ****ing rich and you can no longer relate to them?
No, thats probably not it...

Piss Me Off 08-13-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Schredds (Post 719319)
Maybe so, but its about what each individule thinks, Joking_ck thinks Aerosmith, which seems strange to me, but it is what it is, and I think White Stripes, there isnt anything about them that I like, I mean theres probably a ton of bands that I love and people find them inaccessible, thats what musics all about

Seems to me those comments should just be in the overrated thread or something similar. There are a ton of bands more deserving to be mentioned here, the Residents popping into my mind immediately.

someonecompletelyrandom 08-13-2009 04:28 PM

Anything calling itself "chalkface". I've tried to get into those albums time and again and I just can't do it. As for stuff I have actually gotten into and enjoyed... Minit, which is an expirimental electronica duo. It's fascinating stuff really. And though some might disagree, I think PiL is a bit hard to get into at first.

boo boo 08-13-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joking_ck (Post 719306)
Aerosmith just never liked em

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Originally Posted by Schredds (Post 719309)
Alot of people might desagree with me, for me, its the White Stripes, no matter how hard I try it makes me cringe when I hear them.

Yes, it's quite astonishing that such audacious avant garde music could end up getting the kinda radio play that is has.

Schredds 08-13-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 719325)
Seems to me those comments should just be in the overrated thread or something similar. There are a ton of bands more deserving to be mentioned here, the Residents popping into my mind immediately.

Well fair enough, haha, I mean I just cannot get into them, and believe me I given them a chance, so overrated or inaccessible there on my list, :)

crash_override 08-13-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719332)
Yes, it's quite astonishing that such audacious avant garde music could end up getting the kinda radio play that is has.

Lol. A true breakthough for experimental jewish space jazz indeed.

someonecompletelyrandom 08-13-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 719338)
Lol. A true breakthough for experimental jewish space jazz indeed.

LOL! That's best fake-genre I've ever seen! Unless it's real... in which case there is no God.

boo boo 08-13-2009 04:39 PM

Joking aside. I understand that "Inaccessible" depends on the person.

A lot of music people find inaccessible is not to me, not just the standard prog stuff, but a lot of the avant stuff, Frank Zappa, John Zorn, Brian Eno, The Residents, Henry Cow, Mr. Bungle. I don't get what is so inaccessible about it, it has a big appeal to me. Just because it's incredibly bold and experimental doesn't mean it's hard for me to get into, that's the kinda music I crave to hear.

So for me, the music of Fred Frith and Glenn Branca isn't anywhere near as inaccessible as say, the music of ZZ Top or Bad Company, so accessibility like everything else is a subjective thing.

Piss Me Off 08-13-2009 04:40 PM

I automatically assume that if you can imagine a style of music, no matter how stupid, someone has done it before.

TumorAttitude 08-13-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719341)
Inaccessible depends on the person.

A lot of music people find inaccessible is not to me, not just the standard prog stuff, but a lot of the avant stuff, Frank Zappa, John Zorn, Brian Eno, The Residents, Henry Cow, Mr. Bungle, it has a big appeal to me. Just because it's incredibly bold and experimental doesn't mean it's hard for me to get into, that's the kinda music I crave to hear.

So for me, the music of Fred Frith and Glenn Branca isn't anywhere near as inaccessible as say, the music of ZZ Top or Bad Company, so accessibility like everything else is a subjective thing.

That is an excellent point.

boo boo 08-13-2009 04:46 PM

But if I had to say what I think the most inaccessible artist in the world is, Merzbow gets my vote.



Who woulda thunk Metal Machine Music would become an actual genre? :laughing:

Unknown Soldier 08-13-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 719325)
the Residents popping into my mind immediately.

The few times that I`ve listened to the Residents, its always been a case of WTF was that.

someonecompletelyrandom 08-13-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719345)
But if I had to say what I think the most inaccessible artist in the world is, Merzbow gets my vote.

Obviously you haven't heard of Trimelime Gussion.

boo boo 08-13-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 719346)
The few times that I`ve listened to the Residents, its always been a case of WTF was that.


Some of their albums are very inaccessible, like Meet the Residents, Third Reich n Roll and Eskimo. But my favorite stuff from them, like Duck Stab/Buster & Glen and The Commercial Album, has a very poppy vibe to them.

Piss Me Off 08-13-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719345)
But if I had to say what I think the most inaccessible artist in the world is, Merzbow gets my vote.



Who woulda thunk Metal Machine Music would become an actual genre? :laughing:

Don't even ask me what i think about Merzbow, i still have no clue.

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719348)
Some of their albums are very inaccessible, like Meet the Residents, Third Reich n Roll and Eskimo. But my favorite stuff from them, like Duck Stab/Buster & Glen and The Commercial Album, has a very poppy vibe to them.

Have you tried Tweedles? It's a more recent album and a brilliant tip from Jackhammer, it's more laidback but still very weird and touches upon all sorts of genres. It's the most accessible i've heard from them.

Schredds 08-13-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719345)
But if I had to say what I think the most inaccessible artist in the world is, Merzbow gets my vote.



Who woulda thunk Metal Machine Music would become an actual genre? :laughing:

Thats rediculous, its borderline not even being music, lol.

someonecompletelyrandom 08-13-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Schredds (Post 719352)
Thats rediculous, its borderline not even being music, lol.

I will say again. Obviously you haven't heard of Trimelime Gussion.

Unknown Soldier 08-13-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719348)
Some of their albums are very inaccessible, like Meet the Residents, Third Reich n Roll and Eskimo. But my favorite stuff from them, like Duck Stab/Buster & Glen and The Commercial Album, has a very poppy vibe to them.

I only started listening to the Residents a couple of years ago, because being a Devo fan (their early period) the Residents were recommended to me by a friend.

All this talk of inacessibility and Frank Zappa etc makes me want to pull out and listen to "Trout Mask Replica"

Schredds 08-13-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 719353)
I will say again. Obviously you haven't heard of Trimelime Gussion.

Im gonna check them out, Ill report back.

boo boo 08-13-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Schredds (Post 719352)
Thats rediculous, its borderline not even being music, lol.

Well the concept of that kinda stuff is challenging people's perception of what music is, as well as giving a big "f*ck you" to the mainstream.

And I can admire that. I sure as hell ain't gonna subject myself to listening to it though. :laughing:

Schredds 08-13-2009 05:01 PM

****, couldnt find them on Youtube, Im not about to search harder, from what you say it might not be worth it, hah.

Schredds 08-13-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719363)

And I can admire that. I sure as hell ain't gonna subject myself to listening to it though. :laughing:

No doubt, imagine rollin down the street in your car with that at vol. 11, good lord!!!

boo boo 08-13-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 719358)
I only started listening to the Residents a couple of years ago, because being a Devo fan (their early period) the Residents were recommended to me by a friend.

All this talk of inacessibility and Frank Zappa etc makes me want to pull out and listen to "Trout Mask Replica"

That album is more inaccessible to me than a lot of avant garde stuff, it's hard to explain, it's just too ugly for me for the most part.

I consider it a great album though because of the ground it broke for the time and there are indeed some awesome tracks like Moonlight on Vermont, Hair Pie Bake 2, Ella Guru and Big Joan Sets Up. But there's also stuff like Dachau Blues, Pena and Hobo Chang Ba which is just astonishingly awful.

It's a good album for what it is but not the flawless masterpiece people make it out to be.

someonecompletelyrandom 08-13-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Schredds (Post 719364)
****, couldnt find them on Youtube, Im not about to search harder, from what you say it might not be worth it, hah.

Check out Trimelime Gussion on PureVolume.com™

I'm pretty sure that's it.

Unknown Soldier 08-13-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 719372)
That album is more inaccessible to me than a lot of avant garde stuff, it's hard to explain, it's just too ugly for me for the most part.

I consider it a great album though because of the ground it broke for the time and there are indeed some awesome tracks like Moonlight on Vermont, Hair Pie Bake 2, Ella Guru and Big Joan Sets Up. But there's also stuff like Dachau Blues, Pena and Hobo Chang Ba which is just astonishingly awful.

It's a good album for what it is but not the flawless masterpiece people make it out to be.

Always found it inaccessible but at the same time thoroughly interesting, I`ve not heard it in years, so a definate listen is coming up.

Schredds 08-13-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 719373)
Check out Trimelime Gussion on PureVolume.com™

I'm pretty sure that's it.

Weird man, its almost makes my skin crawl, I got extremely frustraded listening to that.

someonecompletelyrandom 08-13-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Schredds (Post 719379)
Weird man, its almost makes my skin crawl, I got extremely frustraded listening to that.

It makes me want to be dead.

Schredds 08-13-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 719387)
It makes me want to be dead.

Ya, it reminds me of being completely hammered to the point you can barely talk or understand wut anyone else is talking about, just a disaster at best.


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