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Guybrush 10-27-2009 05:03 AM

The Official Megadeth thread
 
Megadeth

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Megadeth in 1986 - Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, Gar Samuelson (RIP), and David Ellefson

The band already had a thread it was locked up so here's a new one. There was of course a multitude of Megadeth vs. Metallica threads as well but they are stupid and don't count.

Megadeth was formed in the early 80s by Dave Mustaine after he was thrown out of Metallica for being difficult in a variety of ways often involving drugs. Since then and well into the 90s, it's been a drugged up thrash metal ride where band leader Dave who's perhaps a bit of a diva has been in and out of rehab X number of times and band members have come and gone. Despite all this chaos and Dave Mustaine supposedly being an incredibly hard man to work with, they've put out some astonishingly good music over the years. Dave, despite all his problems and demons, has a conscience and an often bleak outlook on life which sometimes flavours their music through lyrics ripe with social/political critique and commentary.

Mustaine's now been clean for a while and announced his christian faith, but they still put out awesome albums. United Abominations from 2007 was kickass and from what I've heard so far, this year's new album "Endgame" sounds very promising.


Anyways, let's celebrate ol' snarly Dave and his group here! What are your favourite songs and albums? Have you ever seen a concert?

One of my favourite songs at the moment is still first track off United Abominations, Sleepwalker. It is absolutely awesome :)


Victory Guy 10-27-2009 05:29 AM

Loved Endgame. It was the heaviest album they have done in years. 1,320' (track 4 of Endgame) is one of the best songs I've heard Megadeth do. Head Crusher also is a great slice of Thrash.
My favourite album from Megadeth really has to be Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? That ranks up there among the greatest all-time metal albums. I reckon it pips Master of Puppets and
Reign in Blood to the post as well, personally.
The song you showed (Sleepwalker off of United Abominations) is probably my favourite off of that album. Pretty much every song on UA I liked (never really much got into 'Burnt Ice'). Rust in Peace also had 2 of my favourite Megadeth songs as well (Holy Wars... The Punishment Due and Tornado of Souls).
I was going to see them with Slayer two weeks ago in Melbourne but the friend I was going with pulled out at the last minute so I ended up cashing in the Tix.

My top 10 favourite Megadeth songs:
1. Holy Wars... The Punishment Due, Rust in Peace
2. Go to Hell, Hidden Treasures
3. 1,320', Endgame
4. Sleepwalker, United Abomination
5. Tornado of Souls, Rust in Peace
6. Gears of War, United Abominations
7. Peace Sells, Peace Sells... But Who's Buying
8. Head Crusher, Endgame
9. Return to Hangar, The World Needs a Hero
10. The Conjuring, Peace Sells... But Who's Buying

SaphiaGlam 10-27-2009 05:45 AM

One of the guitarists in my band is a complete Megadeth freak and finally managed to get me into the more ballad type/not as heavy metal songs.
I love Trust, Crush 'Em, and A Tout Le Monde ^_^

Victory Guy 10-27-2009 06:00 AM

Risk is probably the only album Megadeth should be ashamed of. Crush 'Em is a disco song.
A Tout le Monde with that chick from Lacuna Coil was good though.

Guybrush 10-27-2009 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SaphiaGlam (Post 758964)
One of the guitarists in my band is a complete Megadeth freak and finally managed to get me into the more ballad type/not as heavy metal songs.
I love Trust, Crush 'Em, and A Tout Le Monde ^_^

You might like Countdown to Extinction :) It's their best-selling album to date and while some fans criticize it a bit for it's mass appeal, it's still a metal classic. It was also my first Megadeth album so of course I like it quite a bit simply for that reason.

Here's Foreclosure of a Dream, one of the singles from that one :




While Countdown was my first album, the first song I really liked from them was actually 99 Ways to Die from the EP Hidden Treasures from 1995 which contained previously unreleased tracks. The song is a classic track, but the same can't be said for the EP as a whole.


SaphiaGlam 10-27-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Victory Guy (Post 758971)
Risk is probably the only album Megadeth should be ashamed of. Crush 'Em is a disco song.
A Tout le Monde with that chick from Lacuna Coil was good though.

I hate that version! The original is so much better.

Sodacake 10-27-2009 09:34 AM

Yeah, the original is a lot better. I think the newer version is in E standard so it doesn't sound as dark as the original.

Guybrush 10-27-2009 09:41 AM

As far as metal ballads go, I think both versions are good. The original is a bit more feely, but the new duet version speeds things up a little and works better on other levels. All in all, it's basically the same song and the versions are not exactly extremely different. I feel like if the latest hadn't been a duet, the two would've been too similar for the remake to make much sense.

The System has failed from 2004 isn't often mentioned, but it did produce this somewhat listener-friendly gem :



Note that it's a fan vid :)

almauro 10-27-2009 10:10 AM

United Abomination was great, I mean where else are you gonna hear a rocker bitch about the worthless UN. Maybe UA was a bit long, but it was full of great tracks like "Play For Blood".


Molecules 10-27-2009 11:52 AM

Yes I love the 'Deth! My live experience with them was last year for the United Abominations tour, Mustaine and co actually passed through Norwich, played the tiny student union... it was truly something to behold. They stormed note-perfect through all the classics and cuts from the new album (which I really enjoyed). It was a humbling experience and was my de facto metal gig (I don't go gigging that often anymore)

it's funny you should start this thread now, I had googled Megadeth this morning for some reason and was summarily underwhelmed by the new single (or maybe it was just the tacky promo video)... also there's a recent Mustaine interview I won't sully the thread by embedding, he seems to have suddenly aged significantly and is in full diva-bitch mode, the entire interview is about Metallica and how James Hetfield once kicked his dog... Depressing to watch =/

Fave album... I have got time for almost all of them (concur with your Tore that System is underrated), but it probably comes down to the obvious ones, the 'Peace' albums. 'Youthanasia' is great too.

Victory Guy 10-27-2009 10:50 PM

Youthanasia was okay. It had some Countdown-ish songs on there.
Their most underrated album has to be The World Needs a Hero. Signalled their return to Thrash metal.

[Droogie] 10-27-2009 11:56 PM

Megadeth's one of my favorite bands, hence my username. I love Mustaine, his attitude, his playing, his singing. he's freakin awesome. Here's some of my favorite songs, and some brilliant performances as well;






Mr_Charisma 10-28-2009 02:39 PM

The System Has Failed has my all time favorite song in "Blackmail the Universe", but I am loving UA, and Endgame. I also have their Greatest Hits for obvious reasons. I'm a sucker for production value and duets, so I do like the new version of A Tout Le Monde more. It's missing a bit of that dark feeling, but it sounds so awesome!

I'd just like to note the intro solo to Headcrusher is fantastic.

sidewinder 10-28-2009 03:13 PM

I went to the midnight sale for Countdown to Extinction and won a watch that went backwards. :p: Danzig's III: How the Gods Kill was released the same day.

I got into Megadeth my freshman year of high school, I think it was before Rust in Peace came out. I really loved Peace Sells and So Far So Good So What, and then they released that epic "Hangar 18" video for Rust in Peace and wow, that shit was amazing! What an amesome video that was at the time (the long version of course). That whole album just blew me away, I still consider it one of my favorite metal albums. And then as I said Countdown to Extinction came out and I liked it quite a bit but it was a bit watered down compared to Rust in Peace. Still great though. I'm sure Rust in Peace felt that way to the die-hards too when it came out.

Nowadays I only listen to them once in a while. I downloaded the remasters to replace my tapes, and did repurchase Rust in Peace on CD because it's so awesome. I never checked out anything beyond Countdown though. I'm not sure I would really like it all that much. Even on the occasion that I hear a song from Countdown on shuffle, I don't like the sound all that much. Something about it, can't match their best stuff.

screemin187 11-01-2009 09:05 AM

I lost all respect for Megadeth when they came to Northern Ireland in the height of the troubles

Music was a unifying medium for youth with no political bull**** . Mustaine was off his head, tried to fight a member of the audience, called a fan with glasses four eyes, then proceeded to ramble on about how fans didn't deserve to see Megadeth as the Ferry strike at the time made him think the Irish weren't worth the effort to play for.

He was himself at his lowest point with drugs etc, i acknowledge that

But the disgust came in the various forms where he made statements like "War and Power to the IRA" "This next song is dedicated to the (IRA) cause" and many other political and saddening comments for the cross community fan base to have to listen to

He rambled on a few times about but completely denied it in the press saying instead he only made a comment about supporting "the cause" because of a discussion with a bootleg t shirt seller and it was a misinterpretation

He denys all other comments to this day. He once told metal hammer that Holy Wars was written with Northern Ireland in mind and he'd never make such statements, its all fizzled out now but we still think he's an ******* over here

Lost_At_22 11-01-2009 09:24 AM

Could you be talking about this song? :thumb:


screemin187 11-01-2009 09:26 AM

It was actually circa 1987/88 when this happened

Janszoon 11-01-2009 10:40 AM

I'm not much a of Megadeth fan but I do have to say I saw them live in 1997 and they were pretty damn good.

Guybrush 11-01-2009 10:44 AM

It's an easy band to criticize because even the most loyal Megadeth fans, unless delirious, will have to admit that Dave Mustaine can be a bit of a douche. The concert in Ireland is a good example. His behaviour loses him friends and band members. He seems to always be involved in some kind of bitch-fight.

To really like them, I think you just have to come to terms with all that and just appreciate them for the music :p:

screemin187 11-01-2009 10:50 AM

He can indeed toretordon, just can't seem to help himself. I have heard some good reports about the latest album but i'm just no longer interested in them.

Randy from Lamb of God has a little "Mustaine Syndrome" too in my opinion

Engine 11-01-2009 03:19 PM

I'm a fan only through Rust In Peace - even that was one I only came to appreciate more recently.
The narcissism (and drug addiction) were the only things that held Mustaine back from his ultimate dream - to dethrone Metallica.
I think Mustaine was a highly talented kid who actually did "invent" certain aspects of thrash (as he continually states) - and the early albums have some of the best thrash riffs of all time. I like how Mustaine considered both melody and technical skill essential even in his attempts to be the heaviest around - that combo served him well (at least in the 80s).

Phillyboy 11-02-2009 11:17 PM

I like "Sweating Bullets" but that's it. Great technical band, and I understand why they have so many millions of fans. I just don't really like Dave's vocals.

Guybrush 11-03-2009 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillyboy (Post 761908)
I like "Sweating Bullets" but that's it. Great technical band, and I understand why they have so many millions of fans. I just don't really like Dave's vocals.

Sweating bullets? That's a weird pick :p: If someone were to like one song out of countdown to extinction, you'd figure it would be something like symphony of destruction or Foreclosure of a dream.

I also love Captive Honour from that album, but there's a catch ..



The silly trial is a bit embarassing. I know how it's sorta central to the point, but I've never really come to terms with it. Gotta love the lyrics though :D

And if you kill a man, you're a murderer
Kill many and you're a conquerer
Kill'em all .. Ooh, you're a God!

Antonio 11-03-2009 04:44 AM

as with many people, Megadeth is one of my favorite bands, i remember getting into them in sophomore year of high school when i got Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? for christmas. just the speed and technicality of the music blew me away. it was like nothign else i'd ever heard. my love for them increased when i finally got Rust in Peace, still one of if not my most favorite metal albums to date. every song was just masterful and it was really the band in its creative peak. i feel that Dave Mustaine is not only one hell of a guitarist, but also a great lyrcist and composer.

i also loved the band's Behind the Music, which frankly surprised me in the amount of **** Dave went through (abusive father, drugs and rehab, etc) and i now have a newfound respect for him.

as for their music, listening to it has really influenced me in my playing and pushed me in terms of precision and technicality. learning alot of their riffs and the unusual forms of them also helped in opening my mind for new song ideas.

i have this band to thank for the music i listen to today as well as a good amount of my playing, and i hope they can soldier on and keep making great music.

SATCHMO 11-03-2009 04:49 AM

Rust in Peace and So Far, So Good, So What were both classic albums. After those two I lost interest.

Molecules 11-03-2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 761957)
Rust in Peace and So Far, So Good, So What were both classic albums. After those two I lost interest.

Interesting, So Far has some classics but is the generally regarded as the worst of their 80's albums... If you are on the thrash tip right now you really need to check out, in the following order:
Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good! (1985)
Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? (1986)

That's Megadeth's essential opening assault and rebuttal to Metallica's success imo, the remastering has given Killing... a new lease of life, it's just f*cking relentless. But Peace Sells... is the masterpiece, along with Rust

SATCHMO 11-03-2009 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 761980)
Interesting, So Far has some classics but is the generally regarded as the worst of their 80's albums... If you are on the thrash tip right now you really need to check out, in the following order:
Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good! (1985)
Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? (1986)

That's Megadeth's essential opening assault and rebuttal to Metallica's success imo, the remastering has given Killing... a new lease of life, it's just f*cking relentless. But Peace Sells... is the masterpiece, along with Rust

I caught So Far... right when it came out, so for that reason it has a little added relevance, but I almost forgot about Killing is My Business.... Yeah, you're definitely right about that one being a quintessential classic.

Molecules 11-03-2009 07:08 AM

yeah, don't get me wrong i do like So Far, even the Anarchy in the UK cover is great, it highlights thrash's punk credentials which is sort of my musical roots :D And as an album parts of it are prophetic of Mustaine fully exploring his songwriting skills in the 90's (which had mixed results, obviously)... In My Darkest Hour, Mary Jane and all that, there were a few of the slower songs sneaking in.
But it is a classic near-casualty of murky 80's metal production imo, that holds it back a little

SATCHMO 11-03-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 761985)
yeah, don't get me wrong i do like So Far, even the Anarchy in the UK cover is great, it highlights thrash's punk credentials which is sort of my musical roots :D And as an album parts of it are prophetic of Mustaine fully exploring his songwriting skills in the 90's (which had mixed results, obviously)... In My Darkest Hour, Mary Jane and all that, there were a few of the slower songs sneaking in.

Hook in Mouth is definitely my favorite off the album.

Phillyboy 11-03-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 761936)
Sweating bullets? That's a weird pick :p: If someone were to like one song out of countdown to extinction, you'd figure it would be something like symphony of destruction or Foreclosure of a dream.

I also love Captive Honour from that album, but there's a catch ..



The silly trial is a bit embarassing. I know how it's sorta central to the point, but I've never really come to terms with it. Gotta love the lyrics though :D

And if you kill a man, you're a murderer
Kill many and you're a conquerer
Kill'em all .. Ooh, you're a God!

I like the breakdown in "Sweating Bullets", hate the verses. "Sypmphony" has a classic riff, but I don't like the vocals to the point that I feel embarassed to listen to them. I understand he went through alot of ****, but he also says alot stupid ****, so that clouds my vision.

screemin187 11-03-2009 02:39 PM

No offence to fans but i personally haven't liked a single song put out by Megadeth in 20 years. I do think their latest is their best material in a long long time though but still not for me

Molecules 11-03-2009 05:14 PM

make fun of me if you will, but this song is slightly cheesy greatness, uncy Dave really steps into the confession booth on this album (and a great album it is too) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9biK6KQJQ8

jackhammer 11-05-2009 05:53 PM

I'm still waiting for UK tour details. They have been touring recently with Slayer down under and in Canada (what a package!) but as Slayer are here in a couple of weeks, it won't happen over here so when are they over? They are damn good live.

Molecules 11-05-2009 05:56 PM

it would be great to see them live again, this time i'll get very drunk early, whichll give me the gumption to ram my way to the front. How many times have you seen the 'deth Lee?

jackhammer 11-05-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 763365)
it would be great to see them live again, this time i'll get very drunk early, whichll give me the gumption to ram my way to the front. How many times have you seen the 'deth Lee?

Only once but it was on the mighty Clash Of The Titans tour- Megadeth, Slayer, Testament and Suicidal Tendencies. What a gig! There is talk of the big 4 reuniting for a tour and although Metallica are a shade of their former selves, it would still be a great gig.

screemin187 11-06-2009 12:39 PM

The rumours were that Lars Ulrich was organising it

Anything i have read so far seems to be press speculation and band members in turn just not "writing the idea off" as opposed to actually organising anything

Has there been any recent press on it?

bass_girl 11-13-2009 01:05 PM

end game was alright, it wasn't there best work though.

smith729 11-21-2009 08:16 AM

I was dissapointed by endgame

top 3 albums
1. Peace sells...but whos buying?
2. Countdown to extinction
3. Killing is my business...and business is good!

Wpnfire 09-04-2014 11:40 PM

Bump.

Why are 90% of Megadeth fans also Metallica trolls?

"Metallica's sucked ever since Mustaine left"

Like WTF? That's not even remotely true. LOL

CoNtrivedNiHilism 09-05-2014 01:02 AM

My stance on the whole Metallica vs. Megadeth debate has always simply been based around my belief that Megadeth is the better band. It has nothing to do with beef with Metallica for me. I feel that Mustaine is a better songwriter and frontman than James, and has more depth in his guitar playing than Kirk. I've also always believed that Lars is sort of a sloppy drummer. So I guess I'm also saying that Megadeth is comprised of better musicians as well. Although. Metallica are still comprised of great musicians too, save for Lars...he can play, but as I said...his playing has always sounded sloppy to me.


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