Anyone else not understand ''glam/hair/ metal??

**Janszoon** · 01-11-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

I just think if you look at that time, the grunge movement. Essential albums would be Nevermind, Ten, Dirt, and Badmotorfinger.Those would be the 4 albums I would give someone if they had never heard grunge. Pretty good company to be in.

I have to say at the time I never thought of Badmotorfinger as any kind of essential album. Actually, as I've mentioned to V&F in the past, people I knew considered it a metal not grunge. And for me, whatever you group it with, it's just a boring album that never did it for me. So it's pretty hard for me to call it classic or essential or anything else along those lines.

Unknown Soldier · 01-11-2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

I just think if you look at that time, the grunge movement. Essential albums would be Nevermind, Ten, Dirt, and Badmotorfinger.Those would be the 4 albums I would give someone if they had never heard grunge. Pretty good company to be in.

Those four could certainly be clasified as the essential albums from the grunge era. When most people think of classic rock they think 60`s and 70`s because the term I think was coined in the 80`s???? so it means anything great and old. So any classic rock albums from the 80`s and 90's regardless of genre are classic rock.

Violent & Funky · 01-11-2011, 09:51 AM

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Okay. I disagree though. To me it's a very "meh" album. V&F just has this weird notion that it's somehow an indisputable fact that Badmotorfinger is amazing. I'm pretty sure he thinks I'm just being difficult or something for never having been impressed by it.

I just think you are difficult to impress.

But I don't consider the term "classic" subjective as you do. I don't even like Badmotorfinger (and I don't know how you got this impression of me) but I consider it a classic album, because, well, it *IS* a classic album, whether Janszoon of MusicBanter likes it or not...

**Janszoon** · 01-11-2011, 10:00 AM

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I just think you are difficult to impress.

Not really. I did mention that I like some Poison songs after all.

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But I don't consider the term "classic" subjective as you do. I don't even like Badmotorfinger (and I don't know how you got this impression of me) but I consider it a classic album, because, well, it *IS* a classic album, whether Janszoon of MusicBanter likes it or not...

"It's a classic because it is" doesn't really explain much to me. If neither of us think it's a good album, why on earth would either of us consider it a classic?

~~James~~ · 01-11-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

I just think if you look at that time, the grunge movement. Essential albums would be Nevermind, Ten, Dirt, and Badmotorfinger.Those would be the 4 albums I would give someone if they had never heard grunge. Pretty good company to be in.

Nah. Badmotorfinger(Might swap it for Dust depending on their preference between Metal and Indie), Dirt, Gentlemen and Live Through This :P
If you have to put in a Nirvana album at least make it In Utero.

Screen13 · 01-11-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Anyone who slates G n R is OK in my book.

I still don't understand how they became so big. Right place, right time I guess

That's possibly the "Circle Gets the Win" answer, although of course the right amount of promotion has to be thrown in. G and R did arrive at a time in The US when radio stations were possibly begging for something which resembled the 70's Rock they never wanted to part with by the time they arrived. Crue and Poison were staples fine enough, but they were quite "Visual" when compared to Axl, Slash, and the rest of the gang. Thanks to having an ace guitarist, the road to stardom was started to be paved.

crash_override · 01-11-2011, 11:46 AM

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Nah. Badmotorfinger(Might swap it for Dust depending on their preference between Metal and Indie), Dirt, Gentlemen and Live Through This :P
If you have to put in a Nirvana album at least make it In Utero.

Can't go wrong with Screaming Trees, but that list wasn't my preference. But rather a device to show the importance of the album by popularity.

~~James~~ · 01-11-2011, 11:52 AM

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Can't go wrong with Screaming Trees, but that list wasn't my preference. But rather a device to show the importance of the album by popularity.

Well then I'd probably agree, but if it was only to introduce them to the music I definetly wouldn't include Nevermind or Ten.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-11-2011, 03:12 PM

I use my Mum as a barometer to decide what's classic or not.

If I ask her who Guns n Roses are she knows, If I ask her who Soundgarden are she'll probably look at me blankly.

I think Appetite is in a totally different league to anything Soundgarden did.

Violent & Funky · 01-11-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I use my Mum as a barometer to decide what's classic or not.

If I ask her who Guns n Roses are she knows, If I ask her who Soundgarden are she'll probably look at me blankly.

I think Appetite is in a totally different league to anything Soundgarden did.

I have a hard time putting Soundgarden down like that. They were at least as great of a band as GnR.

RE: Janszoon

If neither of us liked... say neither of us liked Daydream Nation it wouldn't be a classic album? Of course it is!

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