I really miss Nick Oliveri.

Heard any Mondo Generator?

Cocaine Rodeo. I hear they got a new one.

Yeah, I haven't heard it yet. Cocaine Rodeo's awesome though.

Have been listening to them alot lately, def an amazing band. Also i just found out Dave Grohl was guest drummer on one of there albums. Hes a sweet guy.

yeah i found that out about a month ago...didn't know myself.

He made Songs for the deaf what they are...best drummer they ever had.

They're legendary in the "stoner rock" scene, and are sometimes credited with bringing back "guitar rock".

EDIT: Wtf happened to my post? :|

You're right, I exaggerated...although, are you sure he just did what Josh told him to do? Because the drumming on all the other albums is pretty different...:\

Most things on all of their albums are pretty different. S'part of the reason I love 'em.

But yeah, to elaborate upon QOTSA's "legend" status...well, to put it simply, QOTSA is to stoner rock what Nirvana was to grunge, in a way.

Alot of people think of me as a straight up "metal" guy. This isn't true. I listen to many genres of music, and QOTSA is one of my personal favourite groups.

I also enjoy Kyuss. :D

The Desert Sessions were pretty epic, and qotsa are decent in my book.

I find them a bit hit and miss. Stoner rock is a genre I really need to dig deeper in. I absolutely adore the MASTERS OF REALITY debut album, and they have ties with QOTSA.

QOTSA are clever but I feel they've lost their mojo over the last couple of albums. I defintely think Oliveri took a bit of their bang when he left for the spastic Mondo.G.

Stoner rock is such a grand genre, I absolutely fucking love it. Even the relatively poor bands that are out there usually have something going for them like a fun riff and a bit of get up and go. It's one of those genres that I don't think can really do any wrong.

jackhammer, I'd suggest looking into some Fu Manchu if I were you. In particular their King Of The Road album, absolute masterpiece. Makes me want to buy an old Camaro and drive on, and on, and on, and on....

And try Superjudge by Monster Magnet, jesus mate, talk about gorgeous sun glazed, dazed and persuasively trippy psyche jams. Dave Wyndorf is great on the ol' vocals and lyrics on this one too. These guys fed their music the drugs so you wouldn't have to do the consuming.

I agree, they weren't the same band after Oliveri left. IMO, Homme needs to collaborate and Oliveri was his most productive partner in both in Kyuss and QOTSA. Jackhammer...also check out Orange Goblin.

Thanks for reccos guys. I will have a dig around.

I've been heavily into their self-titled lately. Jammed on "You Can't Quit Me Baby" for a good ten minutes when I saw them - been hooked ever since. Their new sound is great, but damn, they should do some more extended jamming. Fucking amazing at it.

One of the few bands that continually puts out solid records. Their new album is damn fine. And contains one of the best guitar riffs of the year in the fill of Sick Sick Sick.

I disagree. Its far from their best, their first 3 albums piss all over Era Vulgaris. They've lost their mojo since Oliveri left.

Sure, but I never said it was their best. It's still a great record.

I do... Has members from Kyuss, so of course I like em!

they're a good alternative rock or stoner rock band
my favorite albums are lullabies to paralyze and era vulgaris

fav songs in no order are
3's and 7's
sick sick sick
little sister
in my head
no one knows
go with the flow

As Zero said earlier in the thread, all of there albums piss over Era Vulgaris and in my opinion Lullabies also.

Songs for the Deaf is kickass

Agreed, i think there best album.

Hells yeah...I know that wasn't necessary.

Era Vulgaris isn't bad whatsoever.......its just not as good as some of their other albums.

All I know is, they give good cowbell. You just can't find good cowbell in popular music anymore. :thumb:

I didnt say it was bad. It still gets pissed on by the other though.

I like Era Vulgaris a lot, its much more meatier than their other albums which is good since i've always thought they should be much heavier. Run Pig Run is just awesome.

I completely agree.

Hmmm. I really do like QOTSA and I have since the days of Kyuss, but I just can't seem to endorse Homme's crazy desires for solo projects. Personally, I hope Homme keeps the lineup he's got for a while. I really like Troy Van Leeuwen and Joey Castillo, and they seem to work well live and in studio.

Whenever it was Homme and Olivieri, the music was sweet and they were the badasses of their day, partying at night and fighting other bands by day. But after Homme fired Olivieri, I think QOTSA really lost its soul, the metal tinge upon its conscience. Don't get me wrong, I still liked EV, but Lullabies was awful and neither album is a match to their first three and a half works. Rated R and SFTD were amazing, retaining a good bit of the ol' days of desert rock while drawing Homme's talented falsetto into their works.

i've been digging on the queens for a few years now. i think homme's solo projects are key to QOTSA's longevity. something he mentioned in interviews regarding the demise of kyuss was that the band was too focused on doing a specific thing and eventually ran its course. i think keeping his various other outlets open will be to everyone's benefit.

i've seen the queens in concert twice. first time was in 2005 in montreal as a warm up for the lullabies tour. was also mark lanegan's last show with the band. alain johannes and natasha schneider filled out the rest of the band. also saw them a few months ago in halifax with the current lineup. i have to say the mix of new and old musicians really added to the dynamic of the band. it was obviously still the queens both times but the feel of the shows were totally distinct.

i remember being upset about oliveri's removal from the band (or however you want to state it). but in retrospect i think it was necessary. if you check out some of the early bootlegs the band was spotty, even on the songs for the deaf tour. when it was good it really was, but there are also some really effing sad live cuts out there too, 'go with the flow' should never sound sloppy or like it's dragging.

i can't say i know any of the individual's personally nor do i know their real motives but it seems pretty clear to me that homme was interested in playing music for a living and realized that if he wanted to do more than scrape the edge of mainstream obscurity his live show had to be as tight as his albums, and excessive drug use is not conducive to that sentiment.

i also think era vulgaris is on the same level as R.

Now that's certainly a bold statement. Honestly, I didn't find anything particularly wrong with Era Vulgaris. There were a few filler tracks (I'm Designer, Misfit Love, Suture Up Your Future and Battery Acid come to mind) but nothing that really stung of shit like most of Lullabies. I just wasn't that into it.

Rated R, on the other hand, was for me the zenith of QOTSA. It has a brilliant opener (Feel Good Hit Of The Summer) and an ethereal closer (I Think I Lost My Headache) and really only two filler tracks which clocked at under 2:30 combined don't really affect the album's integrity. One of Homme's best showings-off his of guitar prowess is there too (Better Living Through Chemistry) as well as perhaps their most well-recognized song (In The Fade). The album takes turns among different genres, breaching their many talents, and when I first listened really surprised me with its stunning composition.

I saw Queens live twice: once in 2003 during their prime and once just last year. I have to admit, the 2007 show was MUCH better, and Homme satiated the audience by playing most of the set from earlier works. The set closer, I Think I Lost My Headache, was spectacular, even without the horns.

we'll just have to agree to disagree on EV. the only track that sounds like filler to me is 'make it wit chu'. i think it twists around enough different moods and styles to merit the comparison to R.

while 'better living through chemistry' and 'in the fade' are two of my favourites i won't elevate them based on preference. BLTC isn't that complicated or challenging to play on guitar. 'i think i lost my headache' is a lot tougher due to the twisted melody. both tracks are easily trounced by 'songs for the dead', especially any live version.

as for 'in the fade' being the most well-recognized.... wtf? when they played it at the last show i saw most of the crowd didn't seem to recognize it. it wasn't a big single and i'd be curious to hear how you figure it's more recognizable than 'go with the flow' or 'no one knows' to casual listeners.

Heh. I actually liked Make It Wit Chu. The extended solo in BLTC is one of the fastest compositions Homme wrote, and it's certainly difficult enough to play. 'Round my neck of the woods In The Fade is probably the only QOTSA song ever played on the radio. Bit of a shame really, 'cause it doesn't showcase Homme's talented falsetto. NOW Go With The Flow and No One Knows are bigger, but only because of f*cking Guitar Hero and Rock Band out there. I have never heard either one on the radio.

i guess it all depends on regions. the only queens tune i've ever heard on the radio is 'no one knows' and the only videos i've ever seen on tv are 'go with the flow' and 'little sister'.

as for 'make it wit chu' i thought the live version on the through the woods disc was top notch. the song had a nice raunchy feel to it, like early stones. the EV or desert sessions versions just didn't do it for me.

and the guitar nerd in me says 'born to hula' (feel good hit of the summer single version) tops 'better living through chemistry'

and please don't think i'm being argumentative haha i'm just digging on having someone to go back and forth with about the queens / homme :thumb: <--- it's the thumb that holds down my lighter

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Which of their albums should I buy first?