Nevermind vs Loveless

jadis · 06-03-2025, 10:31 AM

Both are great albums, my personal preference is to Loveless

Where does Psychocandy stand in relation to shoegaze? A precursor? Proto-shoegaze?

vittra · 06-03-2025, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis

Both are great albums, my personal preference is to Loveless

Where does Psychocandy stand in relation to shoegaze? A precursor? Proto-shoegaze?

psychocandy is definitely proto-shoegaze, very early on before the whole 90s wave of shoegaze bands and if you could put them side to side to a shoegaze band they would sound very similar.

jadis · 06-03-2025, 03:39 PM

What are some of the other precursors of shoegaze you see?

Obviously this is bound to be a bit subjective, and that's fine.

vittra · 06-03-2025, 06:12 PM

i definitely see cocteau twins, sonic youth, dinosaur jr and even some the cure like pornography.

what about you?

jadis · 06-04-2025, 06:25 AM

I too thought of SY and Cure due to the (occasional) use of guitar pedals... But then I haven't thought as deeply about shoegaze because I'm more of a postpunk obsessive

I love Cocteau Twins btw.

Btw there's a Cure track off Wish that's pure shoegaze and was clearly written in the wake of Loveless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hScJm5AczfQ

vittra · 06-04-2025, 12:44 PM

i do definitely hear inspiration drawn from the whole shoegaze wave in the 90s, considering everyone was doing it at the time so robert mustve been interested in the new sound.

xannieboy · 07-16-2025, 03:51 PM

such a difficult question! I think both albums were significant but Loveless was so unique in itself it is def best option here imo

Rexorcist · 07-18-2025, 12:38 PM

I'm voting on this one because I didn't vote on this one on my old account. I know because the gap between posts overlaps the time I was hear, so I wouldn't have seen this thread before.

I voted Loveless. Really, the songwriting's just much better on the whole. Some filler on Nevermind.

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jadis Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: dont ask Posts: 1,945	I too thought of SY and Cure due to the (occasional) use of guitar pedals... But then I haven't thought as deeply about shoegaze because I'm more of a postpunk obsessive I love Cocteau Twins btw. Btw there's a Cure track off Wish that's pure shoegaze and was clearly written in the wake of Loveless https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hScJm5AczfQ __________________ Wireless enthusiast intercepts government secret radio band and uncovers secrets and scandals of deceitful type proportions

07-16-2025, 03:51 PM	#57 (permalink)
xannieboy Groupie Join Date: May 2025 Location: Michigan/New Jersey Posts: 2	such a difficult question! I think both albums were significant but Loveless was so unique in itself it is def best option here imo __________________ "One crack, please."

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vittra Groupie Join Date: Jun 2025 Posts: 34	i definitely see cocteau twins, sonic youth, dinosaur jr and even some the cure like pornography. what about you?

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vittra Groupie Join Date: Jun 2025 Posts: 34	i do definitely hear inspiration drawn from the whole shoegaze wave in the 90s, considering everyone was doing it at the time so robert mustve been interested in the new sound.

07-18-2025, 12:38 PM	#58 (permalink)
Rexorcist Groupie Join Date: Jul 2025 Location: Somewhere between black and white Posts: 34	I'm voting on this one because I didn't vote on this one on my old account. I know because the gap between posts overlaps the time I was hear, so I wouldn't have seen this thread before. I voted Loveless. Really, the songwriting's just much better on the whole. Some filler on Nevermind.