In Utero or Nevermind? (lyrics, albums, Cobain, member, tracks)

Rainard Jalen · 01-16-2008, 05:02 AM

Recently I've returned to these two records after an extraordinarily long gap. I don't know if it's just because I've heard the hits from Nevermind too many times for them to do nothing for me anymore, or whatever else it might be - but In Utero sounds so much better to me right now in 2008. The songs may not be quite as poppy but all in all, I think they are better, with more sonic depth.

I'm skeptical of my own viewpoint though, given that it may be prejudiced by former overplay of the big tracks (and the point that every kid who picked up a guitar in the 90s knew the riff from Come As You Are) versus the relative unfamiliarity of In Utero; I may know the Nevermind hooks just a little too well, as in, they're part of my brain makeup.

Where do other people stand on these two albums?

Rainard Jalen · 01-16-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Bleach.

I had a feeling you'd say that

. But I'm not giving it as a choice. So there!

Lizzie · 01-16-2008, 09:28 AM

Both are awesome, i probably like In Utero though, very underatted

Rainard Jalen · 01-16-2008, 09:54 AM

Is it underrated? I never realized. I had assumed most listeners thought it was a good piece of work.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-16-2008, 11:10 AM

I'd be interested to hear Steve Albini's mixes of In Utero before he left the project.

Rainard Jalen · 01-16-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I'd be interested to hear Steve Albini's mixes of In Utero before he left the project.

I had not realized his mixes weren't on the final recording.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-16-2008, 12:05 PM

If I remember correctly his mix of the album was sent to the record company & they didn't like what they heard & ordered a load of changes , which was the main reason he fell out with Cobain.

Rainard Jalen · 01-16-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

If I remember correctly his mix of the album was sent to the record company & they didn't like what they heard & ordered a load of changes , which was the main reason he fell out with Cobain.

hmm interesting. that makes me wonder what it was that they didn't like.......

Friday · 01-16-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

hmm interesting. that makes me wonder what it was that they didn't like.......

Quite simple, Albini's production style was quite hands off. After listening to In Utero again just the other day, I think Albini's production means that the album has dated quite badly. Krist Noveselic may aswell have not turned up for a good third of the album.
I thought All Apologies was the only track which had to changed?

cardboard adolescent · 01-16-2008, 12:32 PM

Albini was pissed off about a lot of the mastering but the only songs they actually changed were Heart Shaped Box and All Apologies, I would imagine because those were the two songs on that album closest to "ballads" and I'm sure Albini had them covered in guitar feedback.

01-16-2008, 05:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	In Utero or Nevermind? Recently I've returned to these two records after an extraordinarily long gap. I don't know if it's just because I've heard the hits from Nevermind too many times for them to do nothing for me anymore, or whatever else it might be - but In Utero sounds so much better to me right now in 2008. The songs may not be quite as poppy but all in all, I think they are better, with more sonic depth. I'm skeptical of my own viewpoint though, given that it may be prejudiced by former overplay of the big tracks (and the point that every kid who picked up a guitar in the 90s knew the riff from Come As You Are) versus the relative unfamiliarity of In Utero; I may know the Nevermind hooks just a little too well, as in, they're part of my brain makeup. Where do other people stand on these two albums?

01-16-2008, 11:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I'd be interested to hear Steve Albini's mixes of In Utero before he left the project. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-16-2008, 12:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	If I remember correctly his mix of the album was sent to the record company & they didn't like what they heard & ordered a load of changes , which was the main reason he fell out with Cobain. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-16-2008, 09:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lizzie Diskobox Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: vancouver Posts: 660	Both are awesome, i probably like In Utero though, very underatted

01-16-2008, 09:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	Is it underrated? I never realized. I had assumed most listeners thought it was a good piece of work.

01-16-2008, 12:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Albini was pissed off about a lot of the mastering but the only songs they actually changed were Heart Shaped Box and All Apologies, I would imagine because those were the two songs on that album closest to "ballads" and I'm sure Albini had them covered in guitar feedback.