Hey, I'd vote. Poison might be ****, but they're entertaining ****.

Poison's single "Something To Believe In" is not so bad. Thats about it though. :p:

Oh come on! Are you going to deny "Look What the Cat Dragged In"? It's just too cheesy and catchy to be denied. And only a truly joyless bastard can turn there noses up at "Nothin' But a Good Time".

So after revisiting the albums I found that I still prefer Cobalt to DSO, at least that Cobalt album. If I chose some of the newer albums it may have been a harder decision, because both Gin (2009) and Paracletus (2010) are amazing albums. For the 3-years that I've been listening to Cobalt I've been trying to find out what makes their music so engaging, as upon first listen it doesn't sound much different from some of the other bands. Black metal is all about atmosphere, and DSO know how to do atmosphere as well as any other band. Anyway... I dunno I just prefer Eater of Birds (2007), I still don't know why, it's just the album I would choose to listen to first.

Cobalt - 1
Deathspell Omega - 0

I've voted on every single battle on here (except the battles when I was away) So if you put up a hair metal battle, I would vote, The Batlord and yourself. In fact this thread also needs more 1970s and 1980s metal abums as well, a lot of people on here seem to think metal began with thrash;)

I've been listening to that Blind Illusion album that was up whilst I was away and what a great album it is as well, light thrashy prog metal but with just enough venom:thumb: Can't believe that I never actually got around to listening to it before. After two listens I actually think its as good as the Voivod album.

I'll be checking out the two black metal abums up tomorrow.

yeah, Blind Illusion are (were) cool. Should have added that Les Claypool and Larry LaLonde play on that album... 2/3 of Primus... probably could have got more listeners.

Their last album (sans Les and Larry) sucked the big one though.

First thing i noticed on the album when I checked up on it on wiki, was that Claypool and Lalonde played on the album and Kirk Hammett also helped to produce it.

if that's the case, lemme check my collection and get back to you

pfft only if you forget Motley Crue existed :finger:

I'd vote on 80s hair metal. Saw motley crue few years back was a crazy show

How about voting on the albums put up a few days ago first, and then deciding on what to listen to next.

I'll have you speak with my lawyer...

:laughing:

Ok have listened to both albums and Cobalt wins quite easily. Cobalt is a rarity for me when it comes to black metal albums, its full of power and energy instead of the bleak atmospherics and shrieked vocals typical of the genre and its a must listen to album and I enjoyed it from beginning to end. The Deathspell Omega album was far from bad and had a lot of really good stuff on it, but it was what I was expecting to hear and at 77 mins, it was too fucking long.

Cobalt- 2
Deathspell Omega- 0

Yeah... I probably should have suggested Paracletus (2010) instead, it's only 42 minutes long, and for many people DSO is a new band, and an hour and 20 minutes is quite a lot of time to devote to it.

Oh fug, totally would have voted for Deathspell had I not been away from teh foremz. Solid idea to revamp metal wars unknown soldier! Will be looking forward to the new format

You can still vote as the battle is still going on and have included your vote.

Cobalt 2
Deathspell Omega 1

Ok current battle will last the weekend then the revamp for 2012 will start on Monday.

*to further wet the appetite sugestions could include*

Best NWOBHM album for 1980
Best death metal album between 1990 and 1995
Best ever Iron Maiden album
Best ever Van Halen Album
Best technical death metal band out of the Montreal scene
Best viking metal album
Best metal concept album
Best ever Dio album
Best thrash album of 1986
Best guitar album of the 1990s
Best Pantera Album ever
Metallica vs Megadeth
Best metal album of 2007
Best German power metal album
Best first wave black metal album
Best British doom metal album of the 1990s
Best album produced by Flemming Rasmussen
Best Judas Priest album of the 1970s
The golden age of the Scorpions and they're best album
etc

THE METAL WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REVAMP 2012 THE OFFICIAL RULES.

Ok I decided to put everything here under one banner so everybody knows what is what. The format will flow like so>

1. I will PM somebody from the list (see official list below) I will do this now as a lucky dip draw (more exciting) and will do this a couple of days before a current war ends, so the person can decide which topic and albums they want selected. If the person doesn't respond for whatever reason their turn will pass to soembody else on the list.

2. The person will now select ALL the albums for their own war and of course keeping strictly within the criteria of their chosen topic (its their war so they can decide the albums, at the start of each war I will list the albums they have chosen). They can select a minimum of 4 albums a short war or a maximum of 8 albums a long war (this can be assessed as we go along). They will need to tell me which order they would like the albums to go on at. For example the weaker albums first and the stronger coming later, or stronger first and weaker later, or a mixture. Whatever way its done the strongest overall album and eventual winner will be left standing at the end anyway.

3. Only 2 albums from each persons list will ever be on at any one time, with the loser making way for the next album. This means as each battle within the war goes by, there will only ever be one new album to listen to (which should help people participate more)

4. Voting will be the same as aways, with one vote per person. When a new album comes up, the votes will be reset to 0 and any previous votes will be stored by me to be tallied up at the end of the war. The reason for this type of voting, is at the end of the war every album will be put in order, from winner down to loser giving the war more substance.

5. When the person selects their topic and albums, they should take a few lines explaining why they have selected this topic and the albums (this is optional but it sets the mood better for the war) and I will copy and paste their comments at the start of the war.

6. As of yet their is no clear time length on these wars and each one could be as little as a week or a max of 3 weeks (we'll play it by ear)

7. Their will be some issues with this new format but I'm sure they can be tweaked as we go along.

The Official List for Metal Wars has 16 names>
Please note ANYBODY on the forum can vote in any war, but this official list is just for those members who are allowed to chose a topic and its albums. If you want to be added to this list PM me, but bear in mind to be on this list you need to contribute to the wars on a reasonable basis. Anybody on this list that doesn't really contribute for whatever reason will be removed (the reason for this is simple, if the list grows too big and has too many non contributors, too many members will lose out on the possibility of selecting an album wars)

Unknown Soldier
The Batlord
Il Duce
Janszoon
Loathsome Pete
Bastard of Young
Mondo Bungle
Jackhammer
Metal Conoisseur
Lolpocolypse
RCVA
Unrelenting
Alfred
Mrdood
Hip Hop Bunny Hop
King Matt

Black Sabbath the Ozzy Era and Those First Classic 6 Albums (Unknown Soldier)

As Metal Wars has been revamped for 2012, I've decided to select the most revered band in the history of metal and certainly the most influential to begin this revamp. Most on here will know these albums, if you don't then shame on you! But those of you that do know them, this is the time to refresh yourself and give them another twirl. There is also a Black Sabbath album thread on here, so it will be interesting to see how the voting goes on here. These albums were built to last and come from a time when albums were a glorious 30 to 40 mins in length and not lengthy borefests. These albums were so good, that only Led Zeppelin from the heavy side of the music spectrum in the 1970s could equally boast 6 classic albums in a row.

The Albums Selected

Black Sabbath 1970
Sabotage 1975
Paranoid 1970
Black Sabbath Vol.4 1972
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 1973
Master Of Reality 1971

Again take a few lines explaining your vote and remember its winner stays on.

Vote goes to self titled. Next to Paranoid it's my favorite of the Ozzy albums. So dark and heavy.

Black Sabbath - 1
Sabotage- 0

Black Sabbath - 2
Sabotage - 0

Black Sabbath is the genesis of all that is doom. Apart from a few highlights, Sabotage is bogged down by filler.

Black Sabbath - 3
Sabotage - 0

No contest whatsoever. The self-titled album is one of the best albums of all-time, a great mix of what would be metal, hard rock and even some blues. The title track alone is enough for me to vote it. "Symptom of the Universe" is one of my favorite Sabbath tracks, but that album as a whole is not the best at all.

Self-Titled and Master of Reality are about tied for my favorite Sabbath albums, I have a feeling those 2 will be matched up eventually and that will be a more difficult battle.

The self titled has to beat Paranoid to achieve that, often considered their best album.

Black Sabbath - 4
Sabotage - 0

The self-titled is an amazing album and a favourite of mine. The title track and Behind The Wall of Sleep are amazing songs.

true true. will be interesting. Personally I prefer self titled over Paranoid. But I usually wind up feeling alone on that one.

I'm personally hoping for Vol. 4 to get some praise here. I don't think it will win but I hope it gets far.

I was expecting Sabotage to get some votes here. I know its nowhere near as solid as their previous 5 albums, but songs such as "Hole in the Sky" "Megalomania" and especially "Symptom of the Universe" are classic Sabbath numbers. Anways, my vote has to go with the debut too, because its stand out tracks "Black Sabbath and "NIB" laid down the Sabbath legend and as Il Duce nicely summed up its the genesis of doom.

Black Sabbath 5
Sabotage 0

Vol. 4 is probably their most interesting album and a fav of mine, it will be interesting to see how it does and I hope people will give it a listen/re listen.

There is one small problem with their debut and that is the 2 cover tracks on the album. Not that it makes it a bad album, far from it. It's magnificent and sounds absolutely stupendous after 40 years but it is a truth about the album.

Sabotage was their last truly great album and has some phenomenal tracks and I probably listen to it more than their self titled but only because you know the debut off by heart.

Have to go for their debut though just because really but if it was Paranoid then it would be Sabotage for sure.

S/T 6
Sabotage 0

Can't really find a reason to go against the grain here. The self-titled is simply a better album.

Black Sabbath - 7
Sabotage - 0

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The blueprint for all things doom, I will not deviate from the public's opinion. Nothing against Sabotage (Hole in the Sky & Symptom of the Universe are great tracks as are the others) but the S/T I enjoy much more.

S/T - 8
Sabotage - 0

looks like a massacre again

perhaps US should have paired off the less favoured albums with each other first, or the most favoured ones with each other

Yer the two cover tracks do let it down a bit and I have to be in the mood for the Aynsley Dunbar cover.

I did just that and saw both of these albums as the weaker two of the six that I'd chosen!:)

Anway this battle is over and the debut will go through to face the next match up very shortly.

The debut album thrashes Sabotage 8>>>>>>0

The debut now goes up against their second album, without doubt one of the most influential metal albums ever released and often regarded as the very cream of the whole Sabbath discograhy, a fact I more or less agree with.:)

Hard choice, but I gotta go with the debut. Paranoid is heavier than concrete shoes, but the debut's combo of rock, metal, and blues just creates one of the greatest atmosphere's on a metal album. Gives me chills. The way the first song builds up tension with three chords played at an absolute snail's pace is just genius.

S/T - 1
Paranoid - 0

self-titled - 2
Paranoid - 0

While I do love Paranoid, I agree with Batlord. Though "Paranoid" has some great moments ("War Pigs", "Hand of Doom", "Electric Funeral") it does have a few kinda fillerish moments ("Rat Salad" and yeah, even though it is so loved the title track, maybe even "Planet Caravan")

I find the pacing, tone and feel of the debut to feel better and prefer it to Paranoid.

I think Paranoid is a far more consistent album than the debut, the songs flow better and the band more assured of their sound. Like Led Zep 2 this is one of the classic sophomore sets of the 1970's and its essential.

Black Sabbath 2
Paranoid 1

I love Paranoid. My favorite of the albums. Like Unknown Soldier it's more consistent in sound, and War Pigs alone could get my vote.

Black Sabbath- 2
Paranoid 2

Perhaps Paranoid is more consistent, but the first half of Black Sabbath is one of the greatest achievements in metal or rock. Just brilliant. Oh god, the first song, then the harmonica on "The Wizard", and the freak fest of "Wall of Sleep" that just screams for an acid trip? None better IMO. And how can I not mention the fuzzy evilness of "NIB"? Original version totally ****s on the rerecorded version.