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Originally Posted by Necromancer
Record sales may be a good subject for debate, but I agree with the suggestion, that quanity does not equal quality. Nevermind, [b]the sound and style of that particular album was mainstream at the time of its release in the 90s.[b/]
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No. No it did not. Absolutely not. Holy **** NO. EVERY last one of you arguing that Butch Vig's 'slick' production made Nevermind sound mainstream need to take off the nostalgia filter and
stop considering Nevermind based on the new standard Nevermind established. Really though, compare the production of Nevermind to the other big mainstream rock albums of 1991 like...
Lean Into It by Mr. Big (To Be With You)
Doubt by Jesus Jones (Right Here, Right Now)
Mama Said by Lenny Kravitz (Always on the Run)
Schubert Dip by EMF (Unbelievable)
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge by Van Halen
Hey Stoopid by Alice Cooper
Use Your Illusions 1&2 - GnR
Yes, Nevermind was an order of magnitude slicker than Bleach or In Utero, but if you compare it to the commercial level where it ends up it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Yes, there are also a lot of good albums that were released that same year that feature similar production that showcases more raw emotion than studio wizardry but for the most part it was ignored by the masses until they got their first taste of something different via Nirvana. So anyone trying to argue that the release of Temple of the Dog ahead of Nevermind proves that the latter was a mainstream release is ignoring the fact that the majority of listeners had no idea TotD even existed until well after the fact.
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Originally Posted by Janszoon
Yeah. I mean for starters I doubt Pearl Jam would have made it big if Nirvana hadn't come and kicked the door down first. Plus, when you look at worldwide album sales it's clear that Nirvana had much more reach than Pearl Jam did.
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I'll actually disagree with this to an extent. Pearl Jam were getting decent enough attention with their early singles. They wouldn't have had the success they did without Nirvana but they would have left more of a mark than something like the Gin Blossoms or Collective Soul.
I'm not going to quote the rest of the stuff I'm going to comment on but...
AiC as a 'metal' band. Yup, just like Cinderella, only they were calling themselves Diamond Lie. Apparently while touring with Megadeth they'd get shat on from every crowd even though Mustaine thought they were a great fit, especially in terms of the subject matter in both bands' music. He knew they were going to make it based on the level of abuse they took from the crowds every night without resorting to the same behaviour. Super harsh trial by fire.
Soundgarden was most definitely the Led Zep of the 90s. Get on the Snake = Misty Mountain Hop. You can't unhear it now. Every review I saw for Superunknown back in the day made direct references to LZ. Though I find Black Hole Sun sounds like the Beatles.
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