What albums would say are "essential progressive metal albums"

Rjinn · 06-26-2012, 09:26 AM

Lolol SOAD prog, more like nu-metal. Mixture of time signatures is one of the most essential components of prog, and their music is pretty concise and lack the layering. Led Zeppelin were one of the first to create and soon be a catalyst to prog music with Stairway to Heaven.

Tool - Lateralus/Aenima
Dream Theater - Train of Thought/Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance. However Scenes from a Memory while not really the most recommended as an album, Fatal Tragedy is a must. Insanely good song.
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
Rishloo - Feathergun

Musicwhore A-Z · 09-24-2014, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

i think most have already been mentioned here

i'll go with Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime II

which I actually like better than its prequel

Hi 'HTD', it's interesting that you like 'O:M II' better than 'Operation:Mindcrime'. I strongly disagree with you, but it would be interesting to know why you like it better? Just thought I'd ask.

However, I do like 'O:M II' but I don't consider this record a "sequel" at all. In my opinion, Queensryche just used that as a hook to increase sales, integrity be damned! On it's own merits, I give it three out of five stars. As a "sequel", I give it ZERO stars. I think they should've called the record 'Hostage' instead. That way it wouldn't be in the shadow of the REAL 'Operation:Mindcrime'.

While I don't consider Queensryche to be a "metal" band, I certainly understand why many would consider albums like 'Rage For Order' ( an album that was a LITTLE ahead of it's time ), the aforementioned 'Operation:Mindcrime', and I'd argue 1994's 'Promised Land', to be "essential prog metal albums". But I digress. I still prefer calling Queensryche progressive hard rock. The SONGS mattered more than the NOTES, truth be told. And rightfully so.

As far as other picks, someone earlier mentioned Crimson Glory's 'Transcendence' ( 1988 ). I wholeheartedly agree. Criminally overlooked by many in the hard rock world (

). Great thread and comments everybody (

).

Trollheart · 09-24-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicwhore A-Z

Hi 'HTD', it's interesting that you like 'O:M II' better than 'Operation:Mindcrime'. I strongly disagree with you, but it would be interesting to know why you like it better? Just thought I'd ask.

However, I do like 'O:M II' but I don't consider this record a "sequel" at all. In my opinion, Queensryche just used that as a hook to increase sales, integrity be damned! On it's own merits, I give it three out of five stars. As a "sequel", I give it ZERO stars. I think they should've called the record 'Hostage' instead. That way it wouldn't be in the shadow of the REAL 'Operation:Mindcrime'.

While I don't consider Queensryche to be a "metal" band, I certainly understand why many would consider albums like 'Rage For Order' ( an album that was a LITTLE ahead of it's time ), the aforementioned 'Operation:Mindcrime', and I'd argue 1994's 'Promised Land', to be "essential prog metal albums". But I digress. I still prefer calling Queensryche progressive hard rock. The SONGS mattered more than the NOTES, truth be told. And rightfully so.

As far as other picks, someone earlier mentioned Crimson Glory's 'Transcendence' ( 1988 ). I wholeheartedly agree. Criminally overlooked by many in the hard rock world (

). Great thread and comments everybody (

).

Just to let you know, you resurrected a really old thread, and Howard passed away, so you won't get an answer. Don't think it's for any other reason, but he is no longer with us. You wouldn't have known of course, and it's unfortunate that you chose to respond to him, but just to give you a heads-up.

Musicwhore A-Z · 09-24-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Just to let you know, you resurrected a really old thread, and Howard passed away, so you won't get an answer. Don't think it's for any other reason, but he is no longer with us. You wouldn't have known of course, and it's unfortunate that you chose to respond to him, but just to give you a heads-up.

No way! Sorry to hear that (

). Howard R.I.P. My condolences to his family and friends of MB. Sad news indeed. And yes, I didn't realize this thread was from two years ago until you mentioned it. I searched for a thread regarding Crimson Glory and this came up. Thank you 'Trollheart' for letting me know. Respect.

Forward To Death · 09-25-2014, 02:39 PM

This has been one of my favorite albums released this year. It's not the technical death metal like they did with Focus, but I think it's better and more along the lines of prog metal.

polite zombie · 10-12-2014, 03:30 PM

Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow - almost 20 years since I heard this album for the first time and I still feel amazed every time I listen to it.

Holerbot6000 · 10-14-2014, 01:56 PM

Metal of today seems very adventurous and proggy to me. I keep bringing up Lamb Of God, but they are the only one I've listened to extensively enough to remember their name. Lots of others as well, and from all over the world. Odd time signatures, thundering drums, long, jazzy instrumental workouts, and musicians who really can play the heck out of their instruments. I do get a little tired of the doom vocal approach and often wish a little Bruce Dickinson bombastic melody would work it's way in occasionally, but for the most part, it seems like a great time to be a Metal fan.

The Batlord · 10-14-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Just to let you know, you resurrected a really old thread, and Howard passed away, so you won't get an answer. Don't think it's for any other reason, but he is no longer with us. You wouldn't have known of course, and it's unfortunate that you chose to respond to him, but just to give you a heads-up.

I've always wondered if it wasn't all a hoax. I seem to remember some story of something or other on the net a little while afterward that used a pic that he'd claimed was his own. I really don't remember what it was, but it was definitely pretty fishy. I totally wouldn't put it past Howard to do something crazy like fake his own internet death.

Justthefacts · 10-15-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I've always wondered if it wasn't all a hoax. I seem to remember some story of something or other on the net a little while afterward that used a pic that he'd claimed was his own. I really don't remember what it was, but it was definitely pretty fishy. I totally wouldn't put it past Howard to do something crazy like fake his own internet death.

Internet deaths are real Bat. Always take the internet deaths seriously.

polite zombie · 10-17-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Holerbot6000

Metal of today seems very adventurous and proggy to me. I keep bringing up Lamb Of God, but they are the only one I've listened to extensively enough to remember their name. Lots of others as well, and from all over the world. Odd time signatures, thundering drums, long, jazzy instrumental workouts, and musicians who really can play the heck out of their instruments. I do get a little tired of the doom vocal approach and often wish a little Bruce Dickinson bombastic melody would work it's way in occasionally, but for the most part, it seems like a great time to be a Metal fan.

I can’t stop listening to some band called Myrath these days. They are from Tunisia and I stumbled upon their album on YouTube and it made me think along the same lines. Excellent musicians with good ideas and very nice way of incorporating eastern music sound and harmonies in the metal they play. Also, there is a pleasant amount of Dickinson’s bombastic in the vocal approach.

06-26-2012, 09:26 AM	#41 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Lolol SOAD prog, more like nu-metal. Mixture of time signatures is one of the most essential components of prog, and their music is pretty concise and lack the layering. Led Zeppelin were one of the first to create and soon be a catalyst to prog music with Stairway to Heaven. Tool - Lateralus/Aenima Dream Theater - Train of Thought/Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance. However Scenes from a Memory while not really the most recommended as an album, Fatal Tragedy is a must. Insanely good song. Porcupine Tree - Deadwing Rishloo - Feathergun

09-25-2014, 02:39 PM	#45 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	This has been one of my favorite albums released this year. It's not the technical death metal like they did with Focus, but I think it's better and more along the lines of prog metal.

10-12-2014, 03:30 PM	#46 (permalink)
polite zombie Groupie Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 8	Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow - almost 20 years since I heard this album for the first time and I still feel amazed every time I listen to it.

10-14-2014, 01:56 PM	#47 (permalink)
Holerbot6000 Music Mutant Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: near a record store Posts: 327	Metal of today seems very adventurous and proggy to me. I keep bringing up Lamb Of God, but they are the only one I've listened to extensively enough to remember their name. Lots of others as well, and from all over the world. Odd time signatures, thundering drums, long, jazzy instrumental workouts, and musicians who really can play the heck out of their instruments. I do get a little tired of the doom vocal approach and often wish a little Bruce Dickinson bombastic melody would work it's way in occasionally, but for the most part, it seems like a great time to be a Metal fan.