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The Batlord 12-18-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MyName (Post 1264974)
Sure, ad hominem is reasonable... if you're a stupid moron who doesn't have anything smarter to say but doesn't want to admit he lost the argument.

You didn't have anything to say worth refuting.

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I said why I think those metal genres suck. Dying Fetus is just a perfect example of what I despise.
I agree with you on why Dying Fetus suck. They sound like a random assortment of notes and riffs. This is one small spectrum of metal. Hell, it's just one small spectrum of death metal. Judging the rest of it on the same basis that you would Dying Fetus is just ignorant. Something like this for instance is about as nontechnical and nonwanky as one can get:



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What do you mean I'm deaf to complexity in music?
Didn't you say that all thrash and death metal and what not sounded like a random assortment of notes? If you think that about Dying Fetus, that is understandable. If you say that about all the other nearly infinite amount of genres and sub-genres in metal, than I have to assume that you just are unable to appreciate music on anything but the most shallow basis.

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Deluded? Why?
Insecure? Why?
How deep IS your armpit?
Deluded, because you seem to think your own nonsense is gospel. Insecure because you seem to feel the need to lash out against the rest of us for our opinions, as if you have to shout more loudly than anyone else to quiet the voices of doubt in your head.

Unknown Soldier 12-18-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MyName (Post 1264920)
Silly? Nobody beat my arguments though. Admittedly, I didn't even expect much resistance since I'm right and this was easy like a stroll in the park but ultimately I won so... :finger:

As already stated by others, you didn't actually present a feasible argument as to why Slipknot are so much better than other more reputable metal bands. Had you argued from the standpoint that their percussion section is second to none, their marketing spot on or that they along with Rammstein employ a whole load of musicians, thus keeping unemployment rates down in the USA, people may have taken you seriously. But instead you did the predictable trollish routine and that was to pick out a revered metal band like Maiden, which you knew would probably get people's backs up and then back it up with some ridiculous opinions.

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I'll still check this thread regularly in case somebody manages to actually beat my arguments, but I won't descend to the level of pretentious snobbish posers and insult others anymore, even if they deserve it(as wiggums pointed out)
Please do stick around, your stupidity makes us all laugh and after all it is Christmas and a time to be jolly.

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YorkeDaddy I'm 17, so? It must feel humiliating for a pretentious snob to get beaten in an argument by an underage kid that listens to Nu Metal. Your ego... and its gone.
Thanks for telling us that your 17, nobody would've guessed that.

Plankton 12-18-2012 11:33 AM

lol
Dying Fetus is playing here on Jan 26th:

http://www.musicbanter.com/album-rev...-michigan.html

Here's a link to the venue this dude's (read spammer's) talking about. Middle of the page:

The Machine Shop Concert Lounge

It's funny when trolls and spammers collide. Kinda.

Plankton 12-18-2012 11:55 AM

Incidentally, here's my take on Slipknot:

SoundClick artist: PRD Solo Project - page with MP3 music downloads

Trollheart 12-18-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1264906)
PowerPunisher was the original OP and not MyName, but they could easily be the same person, they're both just as silly as each other.

Yeah I know; I was referring to him. Though indeed, they are of like (I use the word advisedly) mind...

Trollheart 12-18-2012 01:46 PM

By the way, MyName, here's a clue for you: you win an argument when someone you're arguing with admits that yeah, after all, you're right. You win it by presenting proper, valid refutation of someone else's viewpoint or opinion.

You DON'T win it by shouting the loudest, grinning, refusing to hear anyone else's opinion or change yours in the slightest, refusing to listen to well-presented opposing views and just being generally a kid among adults.

You've won nothing. You of course are free to BELIEVE you won your argument, but we all know the reverse is the case. Come back when you've grown up and can hold together a decent, proper debate.

Incidentally, I know little of death metal or the more extreme versions of metal, but ignorance and arrogance such as you display here just annoys me, and your self-congratulatory posts, well let's just say they annoy me too. I prefer to argue with my intellectual equals, so as I say, do us all a favour and grow up. You're seventeen, not seven.

PowerPunisher 12-18-2012 03:08 PM

wtf happen to my thread!?

bob. 12-18-2012 03:14 PM

it got entertaining

Unknown Soldier 12-18-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerPunisher (Post 1265145)
wtf happen to my thread!?

So you're not MyName in disguise?

MyName 12-18-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1265089)
By the way, MyName, here's a clue for you: you win an argument when someone you're arguing with admits that yeah, after all, you're right. You win it by presenting proper, valid refutation of someone else's viewpoint or opinion.

You DON'T win it by shouting the loudest, grinning, refusing to hear anyone else's opinion or change yours in the slightest, refusing to listen to well-presented opposing views and just being generally a kid among adults.

You've won nothing. You of course are free to BELIEVE you won your argument, but we all know the reverse is the case. Come back when you've grown up and can hold together a decent, proper debate.

Incidentally, I know little of death metal or the more extreme versions of metal, but ignorance and arrogance such as you display here just annoys me, and your self-congratulatory posts, well let's just say they annoy me too. I prefer to argue with my intellectual equals, so as I say, do us all a favour and grow up. You're seventeen, not seven.

Why would somebody have to admit they're beaten to actually be beaten? I'd admit if I was beaten. And I'll admit to wiggums, he beat me, he was right but only about one thing and that is that I won't accomplish anything by descending on level of pretentious snobs and insulting them(even if they deserve it). I was wrong about that and I admit it.

But my main point still stays, and that is that people should stop being judgmental, pretentious posers and just listen to music they like while letting others listen to what they like without insulting them. Friendly recommending music you like to someone if fine, but saying "zomfg that **** you listen to sucks, listen to what I listen or you're be regarded as a (insert insults)" only makes you look like a douchebag and certainly won't have that someone accepting your recommendations.

Also, how do you mean I'm not able to hold a proper debate? I'm basically fighting everybody alone for couple of pages and still nobody beat me and shamed me to the point I wouldn't dare to show my face around here again, which admittedly happened to me once on one other forum(it wasn't related to music though).

Unknown Soldier - I think Slipknot is better, it is MY OPINION, my subjective perception on their music compared to Iron Maiden. Music CAN'T be objectively good or bad, you CAN NOT objectively analyze music because EVERY HUMAN on this planet will perceive it differently. It is NOT science, it is art, we aren't speaking about facts here but opinions.

Glad I'm making you laugh, but too bad we won't see Christmas this year cause of apocalypse 21.12.

P.S. I don't have anything to do with PowerPunisher, I like Slipknot but I'm not their huge fan as he seems to be. If you still won't believe me you can do an IP check, but why would I lie?


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