Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Rock & Metal
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-15-2013, 02:46 PM   #31 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 64
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BastardofYoung View Post
Yeah, sub-genres do come in handy when trying to get into a style of music with different off shoots.

I couldn't imagine having to get into styles within a genre without some sort of labeling.

The idea of these sub-genres is a good one. I am guessing the OP just meant people should stop fighting when it comes to what sub-style is better?
That basically what I meant. I will admit I do enjoy metalcore and deathcore and it pisses me off to no end when "real" metalheads bash those genres and make their fans feel like they're wrong for enjoying it.
zman419 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 03:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
Buzz Killjoy
 
BastardofYoung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,692
Default

Yeah, this wasn't just born out of fans, scenes themselves had it. Look at Norway and the Black Metal scene, and the competition (sometimes violent) between the Black Metal crowd and the Death Metal crowd. Was pretty much considered poseur to like Death Metal in that scene. Even bands like Darkthrone would be treated as poseurs cause they started out as a Death Metal band.

It is silly, but it has been a factor in metal for a very long time.
__________________
last.fm

‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.
BastardofYoung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 04:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 64
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BastardofYoung View Post
Yeah, this wasn't just born out of fans, scenes themselves had it. Look at Norway and the Black Metal scene, and the competition (sometimes violent) between the Black Metal crowd and the Death Metal crowd. Was pretty much considered poseur to like Death Metal in that scene. Even bands like Darkthrone would be treated as poseurs cause they started out as a Death Metal band.

It is silly, but it has been a factor in metal for a very long time.
Honestly what classifies something as "black metal"
it seems to be that black metal is just death metal from Europe, that being said I've never really listened to it so I wouldn't know
zman419 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 05:38 PM   #34 (permalink)
The Sexual Intellectual
 
Urban Hat€monger ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere cooler than you
Posts: 18,447
Default

I've noticed this strange affliction that seem to be prominent in metal.

Whenever anybody describes something as 'insert name here' metal. It's always a pile of shit.
__________________



Urb's RYM Stuff

Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.
Urban Hat€monger ? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 06:09 PM   #35 (permalink)
Out of Place
 
Black Francis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: in an abstract house
Posts: 4,004
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? View Post
Whenever anybody describes something as 'insert name here' metal. It's always a pile of shit.
and sometimes the difference between that new made up genre of metal and metal genres that already exist is so small and insignificant that it really doesn't deserve a whole new genre to define it..

and honestly, i got nothing against metal heads that want it this way but where does it stop?

Where do you f*ckin draw the line? this is getting ridiculous..
__________________
"Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A
Black Francis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 06:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
Buzz Killjoy
 
BastardofYoung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,692
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zman419 View Post
Honestly what classifies something as "black metal"
it seems to be that black metal is just death metal from Europe, that being said I've never really listened to it so I wouldn't know
Black Metal:

Black metal is an extreme subgenre of heavy metal music. Common traits include fast tempos, shrieked vocals, highly distorted guitars played with tremolo picking, blast beat drumming, raw (lo-fi) recording and unconventional song structures.


Death Metal:

Death metal is an extreme subgenre of heavy metal music. It typically employs heavily distorted guitars, tremolo picking, deep growling vocals, blast beat drumming, minor keys or atonality, and complex song structures with multiple tempo changes.
__________________
last.fm

‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.
BastardofYoung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 06:25 PM   #37 (permalink)
Out of Place
 
Black Francis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: in an abstract house
Posts: 4,004
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BastardofYoung View Post
Black Metal:

Black metal is an extreme subgenre of heavy metal music. Common traits include fast tempos, shrieked vocals, highly distorted guitars played with tremolo picking, blast beat drumming, raw (lo-fi) recording and unconventional song structures.


Death Metal:

Death metal is an extreme subgenre of heavy metal music. It typically employs heavily distorted guitars, tremolo picking, deep growling vocals, blast beat drumming, minor keys or atonality, and complex song structures with multiple tempo changes.
To me there's not much of a difference between the two, they both sound horrible
__________________
"Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A
Black Francis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 06:33 PM   #38 (permalink)
Buzz Killjoy
 
BastardofYoung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,692
Default

yeah, everyone's a critic.
__________________
last.fm

‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.
BastardofYoung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 06:41 PM   #39 (permalink)
Out of Place
 
Black Francis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: in an abstract house
Posts: 4,004
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BastardofYoung View Post
yeah, everyone's a critic.
No diss on you personally i just don't like metal that much..

i like S.O.A.D, The Deftones, Rammstein but in all honesty idk even know in what metal sub genres they fall on. lol
__________________
"Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A
Black Francis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 06:50 PM   #40 (permalink)
Buzz Killjoy
 
BastardofYoung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,692
Default

No worries, I wouldn't take offense to someone not liking that type of music, or take it as an attack on my being. I am old enough to know better.

It is understandable, it is not a style for everyone. Though usually I think it comes down more to the vocals. Sure if someone made strictly instrumental music in the style, maybe more people would at least see what goes into it.

I always look for instrumental Death Metal for that reason, but seems like it is few and far between. A few I have found here and there (not counting lil acoustic interludes/intros and the like - just thinking tracks that are strictly more Death Metal, just without vocals)

This is the best example I have found:
__________________
last.fm

‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.
BastardofYoung is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2020 Advameg, Inc.