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Old 06-19-2013, 10:25 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This article probably best sums up the so-called relationship between nu-metal and Death Grips/aggro rap acts (the author's words...).

The New Nu-Metal
Hmm. I know that MC Ride, at least, is a genuinely knowledgeable about metal. I've seen photos of him sporting a Revenge shirt while performing in concert. So I guess the connection between someone who is obviously an enthusiast of bestial black metal being connected with nu metal rustled my jimmies.

Still don't really care about Death Grips music, though.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If anything Nu metal helped Rock music during 1998-2001 cause if there was no nu metal the mainstream scene would have been swapped with Rap and POP bands with no one carrying the flag for Heavy music


they should of called it NU-Rock cause the bands had more 2 do with Rock then metal its not like a lot of them had double bass and guitar solos in there music or fast thrashy riffs

either way Alternative rock in the earrrllyyy 90's grunge in the MIds nu metal in the late 90's to NU hardcore in early 00's to Nu alternative emo rock in the mid 00's its all rock to me the music is all Guitar driven and ... I guess band driven with advances in studio tricks and magic what I mean is they all used the same equipment Guitar bass and drums and vocals
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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What is nu hardcore? And how did emo hurt music, especially in the mid-00s? From what I've learned at this forum and other places, "true" emo died out in the late 90s - early 00s, and now only lives on in the deep underground. How I see emo hurting rock music is when people picked up the word and Fall Out Boy and Panic! At the Disco spawned.
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't think either were killers of the genre or anything like that. Nu-Metal is actually a bit of a guilt pleasure of mine, while I don't enjoy post-grunge much. Still listen to Limp Bizkit once in awhile. Come at me.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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This is strange question actually. Every genre has good and bad bands. Calling more popular streams as killers... well... then you should start calling justin bieber as a killer of the rock music, because all of those 14yo girs could listen to death metal otherway
This isn't about genres this is about the psyhology of different ages.
If you like rock, then noone can't tell you to listen something else.
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Surely no new genre can 'hurt' music though? As isn't it someones opinion if they like it or not?

Just a thought....
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The music charts tell the story. From the mid Sixties to late Eighties the best selling albums were nearly all rock music.

Since the mid Nineties, dance music and rap music have dominated popular music sales. There's also been a big resurgence in country music over the past few years.

This week, the only rock album on the Billboard top 20 selling albums is a reissue of Black Sabbath's 1970 debut album. That's pretty pathetic.

Rock and roll would be dead except many bands still maike a pretty good living by touring. Fans still go out to see their favorite bands even when their records sales are flat lining. But as far as album sales go, rock and roll was over and done with twenty years ago.
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The music charts tell the story.

This week, the only rock album on the Billboard top 20 selling albums is a reissue of Black Sabbath's 1970 debut album. That's pretty pathetic.

Rock and roll would be dead except many bands still make a pretty good living by touring. Fans still go out to see their favorite bands even when their records sales are flat lining. But as far as album sales go, rock and roll was over and done with twenty years ago.Your
Your post reminds me of how modern bands and artists basically produce themselves anymore, making their own videos, touring. Its so much easier for bands to just come out of nowhere if they've got the right ingredients musically these days, but at the same time, its more congested with bad bands.

Cover bands are in decline compared to 10 or 20 years ago. Rule of thumb, don't play out live unless you have an album/CD to push with your band. Everything else is basically just a waste of time when you consider $ for the effort involved, other than just having a good time and paying for it yourself.
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Your post reminds me of how modern bands and artists basically produce themselves anymore, making their own videos, touring. Its so much easier for bands to just come out of nowhere if they've got the right ingredients musically these days, but at the same time, its more congested with bad bands.

Cover bands are in decline compared to 10 or 20 years ago. Rule of thumb, don't play out live unless you have an album/CD to push with your band. Everything else is basically just a waste of time when you consider $ for the effort involved, other than just having a good time and paying for it yourself.
It's gotten to the point where rock bands really don't need record labels anymore. The software for a band to self record music is now within the price range of any band. Since most music is now sold digitally , you no longer need a record label's distribution network to sell your product. And you can do all of the promotion yourself using word of mouth, the media and the internet.

Record labels still provide touring support, but they deduct tour support costs from the royalty payments to artists. So artists are already footing the bill for their touring costs.

Many digital music retailers will do a 50/50 split on net album sales with artists which is a lot better than the 3% royalty cut that most artists get from a record label.

In the future, I think many bands will provide their albums free or very cheap by digital download and not even mess with labels, like Radiohead did. The real money is in touring and very few artists ever see a penny in royalty payments from their record labels.
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The music charts tell the story. From the mid Sixties to late Eighties the best selling albums were nearly all rock music.

Since the mid Nineties, dance music and rap music have dominated popular music sales. There's also been a big resurgence in country music over the past few years.

This week, the only rock album on the Billboard top 20 selling albums is a reissue of Black Sabbath's 1970 debut album. That's pretty pathetic.

Rock and roll would be dead except many bands still maike a pretty good living by touring. Fans still go out to see their favorite bands even when their records sales are flat lining. But as far as album sales go, rock and roll was over and done with twenty years ago.
Is any of this necessarily a bad thing?
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