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eviljoker7075 06-10-2005 02:19 AM

I persionally think Brave New World is their best. I love the sound on that album with the new long songs that dominate it, and as for the thin line.... wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SATCHMO 06-10-2005 05:30 PM

With all due respect, Brave New World may be the worst album Iron Maiden ever produced.

Static-Fear-Shot 06-10-2005 10:47 PM

Many say that Iron Maiden established the metal genre. If so why the fu/< are their predecessors any good at all? I dislike Iron Maiden, l think they are a joke, that should be easily forgotten along with yes, the 80's when 'so called' good metal was without a doubt an epidemic!
Iron Maiden exemplify all those bands, who aren't worth the time of day!

SATCHMO 06-10-2005 10:55 PM

Iron Maiden did not establish the metal genre, and if they had how would that have an effect on their PREdecessors. You've shown with every post youv'e made that you don't know what you're talking about, and your last post is far from being an exception.

eviljoker7075 06-11-2005 02:46 AM

I gotta agree with SATCHMO - maybe I have a different view of metal from the rest of you but at least I recognise the importance of Maiden within that genre - and to an exyent the importance of other bands within the genre!

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-11-2005 09:51 PM

Hard to choose this one.

Judas Priest could have been the biggest metal band of the 80s but they blew it spectacually. Firstly by having a feud with Maiden that stems from a 1980 gig where Maiden were supporting them & Secondly deserting their UK fan base to concentrate on America (They didn`t play a single gig in the UK between 1981 & 1988). Also releasing 3 terrible albums while Maiden were on a roll didn`t help either. By the time they did get it together in the early 90s & released their best album in almost a decade (Painkiller) while Iron Maiden were looking tired & jaded (Losing Smith & Dickinson & putting out some patchy albums) ,when they did finally get some success Halford decided to jump ship & do his own thing.

On the other hand Iron Maiden built their career on being a fan friendly band built on constant touring & not having to rely on mainstream success as Priest tried to do , therefore when they did hit a wall in the early - mid 90s they had a much bigger loyal fanbase than Judas Priest had to bail them out so to speak.

Musically if I had to choose between them i`d say Judas Priest just edge it. I don`t listen to much metal these days but if I do i`ll be likely to listen to albums such as Sin After Sin , Stained Class , Killing Machine & Screaming For Vengence than any Iron Maiden album. I`ve always thought it a shame that Maiden never kept the direction of their first album & I think Killers is a hugely underrated album. I liked the first couple of albums with Dickinson but I lost total interest after Somewhere In Time.

SATCHMO 06-11-2005 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
I lost total interest after Somewhere In Time.

Which is exactly point where the band stopped producing decent albums

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-11-2005 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO
Which is exactly point where the band stopped producing decent albums

Oh thank God for that

I was beginning to think I was the only person on earth who thought Seventh Son was an overlong over produced boring peice of festering crap.

SATCHMO 06-11-2005 10:13 PM

You mean you didn't like "Can I Play With Madness"?

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-11-2005 10:16 PM

Oh that was OK

How could I not like something that featured Graham Chapman in his last ever role before he died.

Rest of the album was awful

SATCHMO 06-11-2005 10:22 PM

I was being facetious, but........Who's this Graam Chapman feller'?

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-11-2005 10:23 PM

From Monty Python , Played Brian in The Life Of Brian.

He played the schoolteacher in the video for Can I Play With Madness & died just a couple of months later.

SATCHMO 06-11-2005 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Halford decided to jump ship & do his own thing.

.

I thought Fight was very impressive, especially for a middle aged singer of a washed up 80's metal band.

Mr.Thrifty 06-13-2005 12:04 PM

maiden for sure because they are one of the first bands to use the "galloping" base line and guitar rythms

good job spotting that via ears.

ironmaidenrule 07-06-2005 08:52 AM

tricky. priest are my 3rd fave band ever - AOR is ****ing awesome, as is painkiller. but i have to say maiden are my fave band ever. they are far more consistent, and DOD is the best album ever.

Krosstika 07-06-2005 11:01 AM

Although it was Slayer that turned me into metal in the late 1980's, Iron Maiden's 'Number Of The Beast' was one of the first metal albums i ever bought...so without a doubt i'v just got to say maiden

BigHairMetal87 07-06-2005 11:46 AM

Maiden Is my favortie band of all time! So I would go with them. But I definantly love Priest so they're a close tie for first

JHendrix_Rocks 07-06-2005 04:11 PM

There are a lot of Maiden songs I like, but not many Priest songs I like.

Music Is Pwnage 07-08-2005 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
damn....damn damn damn......and damn once again
explanation : that song is one of the reasons why i laugh at people who listen to maiden, for you see, that song to me represents the epitome of lameness, the lameness of 80's rock....the lamest music genre that ever existed, created in an era that should be surgically removed from everyone's memory....

i remember you saying that RATM is good..... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Music Is Pwnage 07-08-2005 05:57 PM

i choose Maiden because they rock out loud, Priest does too but i prefer Maiden.

Music Is Pwnage 07-08-2005 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
ooooohohohoho....well now it's getting ugly!!!nirvana and kurt cobain have more talent in their little finger then any of the forementioned musitians....
van halen ....HA!!

MAN you're a loser. don't make fun of Van Halen when you listen to the bull****tiest band ever, stupid RATM.

sleepy jack 07-08-2005 06:00 PM

Iron Maiden is one of my favorite bands and possibly my favorite metal band.

im voting for them.

SATCHMO 07-08-2005 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Music Is Pwnage
i remember you saying that RATM is good..... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, RATM aren't good at all. They're F**king FANTASTIC !

EDGE 07-08-2005 09:27 PM

Maiden for sure.

EddyEdwards 07-09-2005 07:00 AM

Iron Maiden's the best, Metallica is Metallica thanks to Iron Maiden, alot of metal bands take a piece of Iron Maiden, and so should you. Comparing them to Juda's Preist is just stupid.

FYI; Juda's Preist is the 80's spawned metal band, Iron Maiden much earlier.

Metal_Warrioress 07-09-2005 09:09 PM

its a trick question!!! even though i love maiden...ide have to say i like judas priest more....painkiller \m/ :) \m/

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-09-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyEdwards
Iron Maiden's the best, Metallica is Metallica thanks to Iron Maiden, alot of metal bands take a piece of Iron Maiden, and so should you. Comparing them to Juda's Preist is just stupid.

FYI; Juda's Preist is the 80's spawned metal band, Iron Maiden much earlier.

Er what?

Judas Priest had 7 albums out before Iron Maiden recorded their first & were the biggest metal band in the UK in the late 70s.

And I think you`ll find Metallica`s biggest influence was Diamond Head not Iron Maiden.

EddyEdwards 07-10-2005 06:22 AM

Eh? Wtf, thats news to me.

Metallica wouldn't be who they are without Iron Maiden, think about it. You're bringing in new **** here, Diamond Head had nothing to do with this thread. Go UK lol...

HunterTyler 07-10-2005 07:28 AM

Personally, i think Maiden are far better then JP, There is no other band i can think of that has such a deep history and so many truly hardcore fans, they are THE true metal band

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-10-2005 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyEdwards
Eh? Wtf, thats news to me.

Metallica wouldn't be who they are without Iron Maiden, think about it. You're bringing in new **** here, Diamond Head had nothing to do with this thread. Go UK lol...

Do you have any sort of clue as to what the hell you are on about?

Music Is Pwnage 07-10-2005 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO
Yeah, RATM aren't good at all. They're F**king FANTASTIC !

any generic rapper is better than RATM.

SATCHMO 07-10-2005 07:03 PM

I don't know about that, but they're definitely better than any generic metal band, besides I don't think that Zach DeLaRocha's focal point was in putting himself over as a rapper, but rather to vocally deliver his anger about the truth of the socio-political system in which we live in a blatantly bold and relentless manner, hence the name: Rage Against the Machine. His primary influence was Chuck D of Public Enemy, One of the most legendary and powerful "rappers" that ever held a microphone, and you can definitely hear it in his work, but I think anyone would be hard pressed to call it imitation. In addition Tom Morello Is probably the most innovative guitarists of this generation. Its one thing to be able to play ten billion notes a second, any metal wanker who focuses hard enough can do that, but to be able to make a guitar sound like a multitude of different instruments takes a degree of talent that most haven't achieved. Put simply RATM is probably the most innovative original bands to come out of the 90's.

Music Is Pwnage 07-10-2005 07:04 PM

whatever dude. i hate them. that's all that matters.

EDGE 07-12-2005 03:09 AM

its do0d

pastor of muppets 07-12-2005 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Music Is Pwnage
whatever dude. i hate them. that's all that matters.

not really......

EddyEdwards 07-13-2005 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Do you have any sort of clue as to what the hell you are on about?

Im 16, not 40 - I assume your 40.

I've always thought Juda's Preist began in the 1980's and haven't heard much at all about them, I live in Australia and half the people I ask, more I bet - don't know who this band is... Iron Maiden on the other hand are gods.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-13-2005 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyEdwards
Im 16, not 40 - I assume your 40.

Nowhere near , if you assume that because I know what i`m talking about I reccommend these things they have , they`re called books & they`re full of useful information.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyEdwards
I've always thought Juda's Preist began in the 1980's and haven't heard much at all about them, I live in Australia and half the people I ask, more I bet - don't know who this band is... Iron Maiden on the other hand are gods.

All you had to do was scroll up this thread a bit & read my first post & you`ll see exactly WHY Iron Maiden are more well known these days than Judas Priest.

Honestly does it really hurt to read some infomation before you start crying when i say you`re wrong.

Sneer 07-13-2005 02:49 PM

neither band is worth arguing about.

deadkennedysmeetstheclash 07-14-2005 05:34 AM

Whoever said that Cobain was better than van Halen needs to be shot. Van halen basiclaly invented hammering on a guitar, he could hammer like no other. yeah, Nirvana had better songwriting but then again there ar emany 80's bands with better songs than nirvana. U2 for instance, Alice Cooper, Queen, AC DC, the Cure..Don't you understand that a lot of 80's stuff was pure gold?? Yeah, a lot of it was cheese like motley crue, bon jovi, posion, but every era has it's achilles heel. 80;s music was better than modern day dribble.. Iron Maiden own Judas Preist. JP were a lot more heavy rock for lengths of thier career than heavy metal, Maiden were always heavy metal. ****inson was eaisly their best singer though..What about metallica?? they were 80's!! Just because wham and lot sof other cheap, horrible bands were around doesn't mean every 80's abnd were bad..Niravana were a lot of rubbish, I am afarid to say, Pearl jam and AIC were far more talented..Niravan kind of killed the talented music playing bit..

pastor of muppets 07-14-2005 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by deadkennedysmeetstheclash
80's music was better than modern day dribble..

:yikes: someones living in the past....


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