Is extreme metal boring now?

csf101 · 05-12-2014, 08:53 PM

I don't really think extreme metal is boring, I just believe a good part of it can become repetitive rather quickly, especially when all of the bands are trying to just play as "brutal" as possible. You keep listening to faster and faster paced songs, and when you keep wanting them to keep playing quicker and you finally reach the ceiling, it just becomes repetitive, and you're not satisfied.

**Janszoon** · 05-12-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Okay, can we just establish something here? You all may hear melody in that song but I don't. You can't make me hear something I don't feel is there, so can you all just accept that and move on? I'm getting a little weary saying why I can't hear melody, why it is not melody to me. That's how I am, it's my opinion and my view. Can you just leave it at that instead of trying to convince me and essentially saying, you're wrong, the melody is there?

I don't hear it. I can't. So let that be an end to it. Please.

Thanks.

Ok, you asked me the question about a specific song and I was responding. Seems a little odd that you'd be made weary by someone answering a question that you asked, but ok.

William_the_Bloody · 05-12-2014, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah, more or less what I was saying..

No, it's a melody I can't hear. There's a difference. There are plenty of melodies I don't like but can at least detect. In much extreme metal I hear NO melody. As I said, correcting myself, it's not that there IS none there but just that I don't hear it. It's not that I don't enjoy it; it is not there, for me, to hear to enjoy or dislike.

To me, that's just noise.
I know; I'm a girl.

But that's how I view music like this.

I think I understand what you mean by melody, you mean harmony. No you will not find much harmony in most death metal because it utilize a lot of chromatic scales and semitones.

It is bouncing from full tones that produces the melody/harmony that you like, this is less prevalent when you are utilizing semitones, which is why a Morbid Angel album sounds like one long jazz instrumental.

You will however finds lots of melody in Black Metal especially bands that utilize symphonics. Dimmu Borgir is the most accessible of these bands for a newbie, but u have to listen to a lot satanist garb, so if that's not your bag try the first Ulver album, or do a search for black folk metal.

Altairius · 05-13-2014, 04:50 AM

Extreme metal has always been boring.

The Batlord · 05-13-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

You will however finds lots of melody in Black Metal especially bands that utilize symphonics. Dimmu Borgir is the most accessible of these bands for a newbie, but u have to listen to a lot satanist garb, so if that's not your bag try the first Ulver album, or do a search for black folk metal.

Or I'd again suggest Dissection. You can actually understand what they're singing, and they have an almost Maidenish vibe at times. This song right here is the closest extreme metal will ever get to a ballad.

Trollheart · 05-13-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Ok, you asked me the question about a specific song and I was responding. Seems a little odd that you'd be made weary by someone answering a question that you asked, but ok.

Oh sorry man I didn't mean to come over all pouty. It's just that I don't hear the melody and so I'd jsut rather that was accepted than I get pushed to sort of be forced to hear it. But you're right, I did ask the question. It was kind of rhetorical though I realise now that's not how it may have come across.

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I think I understand what you mean by melody, you mean harmony. No you will not find much harmony in most death metal because it utilize a lot of chromatic scales and semitones.

It is bouncing from full tones that produces the melody/harmony that you like, this is less prevalent when you are utilizing semitones, which is why a Morbid Angel album sounds like one long jazz instrumental.

You will however finds lots of melody in Black Metal especially bands that utilize symphonics. Dimmu Borgir is the most accessible of these bands for a newbie, but u have to listen to a lot satanist garb, so if that's not your bag try the first Ulver album, or do a search for black folk metal.

Yes! Yes! This man gets it! Harmony, that's what I mean! Lovely girls, her and her sister Melody!

Yeah I think that's what I was trying to convey all right: I hear no harmony in SOME extreme metal. Not all, but some. Thanks for that!

Trollheart · 05-13-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by csf101

I don't really think extreme metal is boring, I just believe a good part of it can become repetitive rather quickly, especially when all of the bands are trying to just play as "brutal" as possible. You keep listening to faster and faster paced songs, and when you keep wanting them to keep playing quicker and you finally reach the ceiling, it just becomes repetitive, and you're not satisfied.

That's a very good point and kind of illustrates how I feel too. Playing faster and harder is not necessarily playing better. It can be great when done well of course but it can also fall flat on its face very easily. And you need to have, to my mind, more in your music than just speed and noise.

No, I won't say the "M" word again...

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05-12-2014, 08:53 PM	#31 (permalink)
csf101 Groupie Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 7	I don't really think extreme metal is boring, I just believe a good part of it can become repetitive rather quickly, especially when all of the bands are trying to just play as "brutal" as possible. You keep listening to faster and faster paced songs, and when you keep wanting them to keep playing quicker and you finally reach the ceiling, it just becomes repetitive, and you're not satisfied.

05-13-2014, 04:50 AM	#34 (permalink)
Altairius Groupie Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 12	Extreme metal has always been boring.