This will help me out big time with giving you recs for bands to check out. I've got a decent amount to send your way.

Both good bands, and I don't believe in that whole thing that there are no good Chrisrian Rock or Metal bands out there, just because they're Christian and what they stand for; that's just dumb. TFK has plenty of good music, but my favorite Christian band would be Demon Hunter, used to be Skillet but the music they've put out recently is just too safe sounding. I also listen to a band called RED, you could call them a more palatable Linkin Park. And don't forget the veteran Christian group Stryper from the 80's, heck, Petra even.

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I'll check that out when I get home, too. Don't forget the veteran Christian Metal band Living Sacrifice, Batlord. Also a good one.

Wow, you're opinion is startlingly similar to mine! Usually there's a margin of error even between similar minded opinions, but you almost got it picture perfect with how I think.

Demon Hunter is fantastic! They are really good, but as far as favorites it's too soon to decide. Skillet does sound safe and pop rockish, I could never rate a song more than 3 from them.
I know Red and it's like a cross between Breaking Benjamin and Linkin Park. Moreso Breakin Benjamin which is good, cause for some reason Linkin Park's songs get stale kinda fast—Case in point when I first listened to Linkin Park around 2005, I gave each a rating 4 to 5. Now most of them dropped to 2 and 3, but the best ones retained a 4 (or rather mildly degraded from 5).
As for the 80s, I'll give it a shot, but if it sounds like hair metal then I'm like nope.



I just wanna throw this song out there, my favorite so far from them.

Truth be known, I was pretty disappointed with Release the Panic, it was like a really rushed Linkin Park album with a horrible arrangement as far as how the songs were placed on the album; extremely inconsistent, and completely lacking pretty much any of the depth of their previous albums. RED is a pretty good group for mainstream, but Release the Panic was a big let down. Thankfully, the new album they are working on sounds huge and the orchestral influence is back full force. I hope it won't let me down.

Are you open to recs from bands back in the early 2000's as well as new bands too, mainstream?

This is one of my favorite groups from the really early 2000's, the album this song is from is a really solid record; has its nu-metal influences, but I always considered it more of a heavy hard rock album with metal tendencies. The sound quality on some of these tracks aren't too great with how they were uploaded to YouTube, but I think you can find to appreciate how thick the bass is, and how the guitarist effortlessly blends in tasteful lead with his rythmn, he's the only guitarist. The drummer is a respected guy, Mike Johnston. Excellent drummer.

Trouble's s/t is basically Christian metal, and one of my favorite albums of all time, give it a listen.

Haven't heard the full album, but that doesn't stop me from liking this particular song. I'll check it out, but I doubt I'll dislike it the way you do.


Never really got into the grungy sound. Doesn't sound like anything special or something I haven't heard before, my opinion.
I guess I can say it sounds good in general, but the style isn't clicking with me.

This one sounds pretty damn cool. It's like a fusion folk rock and power metal, put in a well orchestrated composition.

This one sounds funky. Has an indie sound to it. Doesn't mesh with me though, but passable. Like something pleasant to add when strolling through an amusement park.

You may like the entire Release the Panic album, it had its moments where I could listen to it, but like I already stated; inconsistent...just didn't do for me what their other albums did.

Talking about Simon Says now...are you saying they are nothing new because you are comparing them to the new or newer bands around now, or because you are comparing them to the bands that were fresh on the scene like Simon Says was back in 1998 - 2002? My opinion is when that album came out in 2000, it didn't sound like other nu-metal labeled albums, it had so much tighter musicianship and better songwriting, and their sound was more built up. I will always say that their Shut Your Breath album is an overlooked gem of the nu-metal movement from the early 2000's.