Metal Album Survivor [1st Wave Black Metal Division]

TechnicLePanther · 07-17-2015, 06:00 AM

Okay, by the definition of the word, they're not wank. Why? Because there are people who like them, making them not totally useless.

Trollheart · 07-17-2015, 09:42 AM

I think you're mixing wank with technical wankery, which is an accusation I would certainly level at the admittedly small amount of DT I have heard. Another phrase might be "look-at-me-ism" They always seem more interested in how they can show off than actually writing enjoyable music.

But prove me wrong: I'll take a DT rec for "Love or Hate?" when I reopen, see what I think of it. Your move...

**Frownland** · 07-17-2015, 09:48 AM

You could always just listen to a song or two to see what you think of it...

Trollheart · 07-17-2015, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

You could always just listen to a song or two to see what you think of it...

I've heard one album (whichever has "Hollow years" on it, can't remember. Falling into something maybe?) Anyway I was not impressed. So I'm saying to the feline one to give me an album he thinks would best represent DT and I'll see if I like it. When that thread kicks back in again, which won't be for a little while yet...

The Batlord · 07-17-2015, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

I think you're mixing wank with technical wankery, which is an accusation I would certainly level at the admittedly small amount of DT I have heard. Another phrase might be "look-at-me-ism" They always seem more interested in how they can show off than actually writing enjoyable music.

Pretty much.

TechnicLePanther · 07-17-2015, 12:00 PM

Falling Into Infinity isn't even close to their best. I think you may actually enjoy them. As much as some people say they are, they aren't just technical wankery. The reason they play harder music is because they want to, and honestly guys, just because it's technically wanky doesn't mean the music is actually bad. When I think of a band that really sacrificed good music for hard music, I think of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. And the bad half of Dream Theater isn't half as bad as the bad half of ELP.

And yes, I'll rec you some Dream Theater. In fact, since I recced you some Tool, I may give you an Opeth album as well. That way, you can hear the big three of prog metal, and decide which you like the best.

TechnicLePanther · 07-17-2015, 08:18 PM

Come on, Batty... My Dying Bride has two times the votes for anything else. I think we'll see some big upsets next round.

The Batlord · 07-17-2015, 09:06 PM

My Dying Bride are ****ing gone, and we're halfway through this round...

5. Celtic Frost - Monotheist
4. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
3. Katatonia - Brave Murder Day
2. Sleep - Dopesmoker
1. Electric Wizard - Dopethrone

Vote 2 off. Polls end on July 19.

It being the halfway point, I'm announcing the next battle: power metal. Suck it cheese haters.

Power Metal

1. Blind Guardian - Imaginations From the Other Side
2. Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 2
3. Hammerfall - Legacy of Kings
4. Crimson Glory - Transcendence
5. Stratovarius - Visions
6. Gamma Ray - Land of the Free
7. Iced Earth - Something Wicked this Way Comes
8. Virgin Steele - The Marriage of Heaven and Hell Part 1
9. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction
10. Angra - Holy Land

Spoiler for Power metal vids:

The Batlord · 07-17-2015, 09:07 PM

Katatonia
Sleep

**Frownland** · 07-17-2015, 09:10 PM

Candlemass
Katatonia

07-17-2015, 06:00 AM	#1401 (permalink)
TechnicLePanther and the livin' is easy... Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York Posts: 1,997	Okay, by the definition of the word, they're not wank. Why? Because there are people who like them, making them not totally useless. __________________ Many have tried to destroy it... but... true evil never dies. It is only... REBORN *SUGGEST ME AN ALBUM* - I'm probably not going to listen to it but I will if you bother me enough.

07-17-2015, 09:42 AM	#1402 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	I think you're mixing wank with technical wankery, which is an accusation I would certainly level at the admittedly small amount of DT I have heard. Another phrase might be "look-at-me-ism" They always seem more interested in how they can show off than actually writing enjoyable music. But prove me wrong: I'll take a DT rec for "Love or Hate?" when I reopen, see what I think of it. Your move... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-17-2015, 09:48 AM	#1403 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	You could always just listen to a song or two to see what you think of it... __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-17-2015, 12:00 PM	#1406 (permalink)
TechnicLePanther and the livin' is easy... Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York Posts: 1,997	Falling Into Infinity isn't even close to their best. I think you may actually enjoy them. As much as some people say they are, they aren't just technical wankery. The reason they play harder music is because they want to, and honestly guys, just because it's technically wanky doesn't mean the music is actually bad. When I think of a band that really sacrificed good music for hard music, I think of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. And the bad half of Dream Theater isn't half as bad as the bad half of ELP. And yes, I'll rec you some Dream Theater. In fact, since I recced you some Tool, I may give you an Opeth album as well. That way, you can hear the big three of prog metal, and decide which you like the best. __________________ Many have tried to destroy it... but... true evil never dies. It is only... REBORN *SUGGEST ME AN ALBUM* - I'm probably not going to listen to it but I will if you bother me enough.

07-17-2015, 08:18 PM	#1407 (permalink)
TechnicLePanther and the livin' is easy... Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York Posts: 1,997	Come on, Batty... My Dying Bride has two times the votes for anything else. I think we'll see some big upsets next round. __________________ Many have tried to destroy it... but... true evil never dies. It is only... REBORN *SUGGEST ME AN ALBUM* - I'm probably not going to listen to it but I will if you bother me enough.

07-17-2015, 09:10 PM	#1410 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Candlemass Katatonia __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x