The Batlord

So are you actually gonna... you know, vote this time around?

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Mondo Bungle

I dunno, is Nile still in? If so then them

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The Batlord

Last day for the death metal battle. Anyone who hasn't yet, get your ****ing votes in, WPNFIRE!!!

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The Batlord

Oh, and I think I've finally got the grindcore and metalcore lists as good as I'm going to get them.

Metal/Mathcore

1. Converge - Jane Doe
2. Poison the Well - The Opposite of December
3. Killswitch Engage - Alive or Just Breathing
4. Protest the Hero - Fortress
5. Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works
6. Ringworm - Birth Is Pain
7. Integrity - To Die For
8. Botch - We Are the Romans
9. Snapcase - Progression Through Unlearning
10. Unbroken - Life. Love. Regret

Grindcore

1. Assück - Misery Index
2. Terrorizer - World Downfall
3. Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
4. Repulsion - Horrified
5. Pig Destroyer - Prowler In the Yard
6. Discordance Axis - The Inalienable Dreamless
7. Nasum - Helvete
8. Brutal Truth - Need to Control
9. Gridlink - Longhena
10. Anaal Nathrakh - The Codex Necro

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William_the_Bloody

No not having it...your leaving out some prominent releases.

Metalcore:

Parkway Drive - Killing with a smile
Bullet for My Valentine - The Poison
All that Remains (Not a fan, but they're huge as far as this genre goes)

Snapcase metalcore?

Grindcore:

change Brutal Truth to -Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses

Insect Warfare: World Extermination
Extreme Noise Terror -(either Damage 387 or holocaust in my head) It would seem weird not to have them in there.

Mondo Bungle

To Die For is an interesting Integrity choice, not disagreeing, but I would have gone with Humanity is the Devil myself.

Insect Warfare - World Extermination is a grindcore must imo. The only thing I could think for it to replace would be Nasum or Gridlink (already got DA on there, and I'd put Amber Gray anyway)

They're pretty much fine though, but KSE can lick it

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The Batlord

No. Tried them. Boring. Parkway Drive is alright, but they just get so repetitive. Same thing I have against August Burns Red.

And how can you call my choices not prominent? By the time those three bands came on the scene, the genre was already established. Poison the Well and Killswitch are far more relevant than those bands as far as that kind of metalcore goes.

Also, I would shoot myself in the head before allowing Bullet for My ****ing Valentine anywhere near my list. I have no problem with generic melodic metalcore in theory, but that band is a crime against music.

Hell yeah! Unless you define metalcore by '00s standards and on. I don't see you complaining about Ringworm or Integrity.

Both are great, but seem to be held in equal enough esteem that a judgement call is acceptable. Brutal Truth upped the ante with Need to Control. Straight up.

Awesome album, and it was actually on my original list, but it's overshadowed by more "evolved" grind, like Gridlink and Anaal Nathrakh, and I'd have to throw out Carcass to add them. I'd actually be perfectly willing to do this, but I already deep-sixed Napalm Death for Assuck and I can only leave out so many old school bands.

Again, I already threw out Napalm Death. If nobody has any objections to me throwing out Carcass, then I'd be perfectly happy to give the spot to something like Extreme Noise Terror, or maybe Magrudergrind or Nails. Or Fuck the Facts.

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The Batlord

Maybe I just need to acclimate myself to their sound more, but I just find them to be hit or miss for the most part. To Die For is just so ****ing heavy though.

Nasum aren't my top choice, but they're still fantastic, and too important to be left out on a whim. I was actually thinking about losing Discordance Axis though. I love that album, but since Gridlink is basically a continuation of DA, that album is almost redundant.

And you can screw off you think I'm dropping Gridlink. Amber Grey is fantastic, but Longhena is such a unique and fantastic album.

In general, yeah, I could give a **** about them, but that first album is pretty awesome, as well as being one of the most influential albums in metalcore. Not the biggest fan of that Poison the Well album either, but it's kind of a must given it's influence.

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Mondo Bungle

Magrudergrind is powerviolence get real

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The Batlord

Yeah, there's absolutely no grind there. Not at all.

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