The Batlord's Thread of Metalcore that Doesn't Suck but In Fact ****ing Rules

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

Left For Dead, had to play faster than the other hardcore bands.

A bit closer to straight-up hardcore than I've been listening to, but all this stuff, along with some Madball and Sick of It All type stuff over the last few months, have been slowly winning me over to more pure HC. Pretty cool.

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I see, well I've never been fan of the Gothenburg stuff to begin with, which is why I don't like a lot of metalcore (At the Gates & In Flames put me to sleep to be honest)

As for Bring me the Horizon, I can dig if you don't like them, so here's an American metalcore band I was into back in the day that had a pretty hard hitting sound....again somewhat hardcore leaning.

Nice. And have you heard BMtH's newest album? I just listened to a few tracks out of curiosity after seeing it get rave reviews, and I was just like, "Ermagherd, this is the most boring thing I've ever heard." I don't care if they're moving beyond metalcore, they're just making dull music.

[Mondo Bungle]

Left For Dead, had to play faster than the other hardcore bands.

[William_the_Bloody]

I didn't know they had a new album, unless you mean Sempiternal ,in which I threw up two tracks from that album.

They've definitely gone in a different direction from when they started ten years ago or so, but I'm not really up on my metalcore anymore, that ship set sail awhile back, in terms of metal I was starting to get into the Blackened pagan metal coming out of Europe, so this is more my flavor these days

[The Batlord]

Really digging Homewrecker ATM. A newer band, their combination of legitimate hardcore, metalcore, and death metal sounds like what deathcore should sound like. If Hatebreed were in love with Extreme Noise Terror rather than Pantera they might sound a bit like this band. Songs that are less than a minute also add some punk cred. Grind moments give way to heavy-as-**** breakdowns with actual riffs, and skulls are crushed. Intense, brutal ****ing stuff. I'll definitely be keeping up with these guys.

[Mondo Bungle]

[Mondo Bungle]

here's some Knut though, the MA are calling them technical sludge metal. Guaranteed to enjoy if you like Keelhaul



This was the first metalcore song that I thought was awesome, and drew me in



Where it's at every moment of every day

[Dylstew]

Mondo, there's a few artists you posted which you don't have plays on over at LastFM.

Are you telling me you've purposefully listened to even more artists than your LastFM claims?

edit: I'm really enjoying Left for Dead

[Mondo Bungle]

Originally Posted by Dylstew

Mondo, there's a few artists you posted which you don't have plays on over at LastFM.

Are you telling me you've purposefully listened to even more artists than your LastFM claims?

edit: I'm really enjoying Left for Dead

I guess

I listen to CDs and stuff

[The Batlord]

I've heard (very passingly, so take that for what it is from a n00b) that hardcore is kind of stale right now, but from the last few bands I've listened to (Twitching Tongues and Homewrecker) who've had their first releases in or just short of this decade then I'm calling bull****. I already declared earlier that metalcore might have been the most exciting metal genre of of the mid-late nineties (death metal was stale by then, but black metal surely challenges that claim), but I'm now confident that, again, perhaps beside black metal again, (non-Killswitch Engage) metalcore is the current throne holder of "normal" metal's crown.

Death metal's old school revivalism and the continued quality of certain brutal DM bands maintains its relevance through sheer quality, if not innovation---Severe Torture is pretty wizard brutal DM of the skull-shattering-est kind, and if you haven't already checked them out, Obliteration continues to pick up where Obituary and Autopsy left off with ever-improving results.

Old thrash metal bands, along with a select few non-parody bands, sometimes show promise that the genre has a legitimate position in the middle ground between extreme and non-extreme metal when it embraces modern levels of sonic beef and perhaps some tasteful post-thrash influences---Exodus, Onslaught, and Overkill have been showing for years that stripped-down, blue collar metal can exist today without just being anachronisms; and Evil, Toxic Holocaust, and Diamond Plate prove that newer can plunder the eighties without being merely jokes.

Black metal, doom, and grindcore's futures seem to be in ever greater and weirder experimentation, so they're immune from this rant (though I've certainly heard the odd metalcore band with more than their share of experimentalism).

Metalcore, however often puts even the most brutal death metal to shame, and is an even tighter, more modernly relevant alternative to thrash. As far as pure headbanging music goes, I think the working man's metalheads are missing the boat on what's going on with metalcore these days. Get over your elitism and get with it.

As you can see, I've become somewhat of a fanboy in only a few short days. End rant.

[The Batlord]

Currently listening to Twitching Tongues' first album, from 2012. In a way, they kind of remind me of Acid Bath. They're both classified by simple genre tags (metalcore and sludge respectively), but they have a diversity and individuality that defies such reductive and restrictive labels.

TT would probably get labeled melodic metalcore if that genre tag hadn't already been appropriated by other bands, though these guys have none of the Gothenburg influences of Killswitch or Trivium (though they do throw in some similar melodic choruses at times). I guess just like Homewrecker are what deathcore should sound like, Twitching Tongues are what melodic metalcore should be.

They've got the heavy crunch, occasional punk fury, and sweet breakdowns of metalcore, but some serious grooves that make them sound quasi-stone metal at times. The vocals are worlds away from metalcore though, and sound more like if a punk band with an actual singer was actually singing rather than just going along with the simple beat of the song. He goes into some hardcore roars at times, but in general he sticks with singing. I guess some people might find his voice a bit too nasally, but otherwise he's quality.

With only eight songs, I figured this would be an EP, punk being what it is, but with the relatively long son lengths this album clocks in at least close to a half hour. They fit some serious songwriting, changing dynamics, and diverse influences into those thirty minutes, and I think they're a pretty righteous band. Some seriously infectious ear worms on this album too.

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