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Terrapin_Station 11-25-2015 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1654745)
That would be what I was referring to. If you use social contexts when reading grindy's original post, it is very coherent.
Well that the concept is commonly used to refer to something (that turns out to be incoherent) is coherent. But I'm talking about the "that turns out to be incoherent" part, not that people appeal to something incoherent.

Frownland 11-25-2015 09:26 AM
Well, it makes sense to me. Sorry that thinking about it too much made it nonsensical in your eyes.

Terrapin_Station 11-25-2015 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1654749)
Well, it makes sense to me. Sorry that thinking about it too much made it nonsensical in your eyes.
That's kinda like advocating the merits of not thinking about something enough to get at the truth, and then promoting something wrong in light of that.

grindy 11-25-2015 09:37 AM
Do you start a discussion about how there actually is no god and the whole concept is man-made and meaningless every time someone says 'Oh my god'?

Frownland 11-25-2015 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1654750)
That's kinda like advocating the merits of not thinking about something enough to get at the truth, and then promoting something wrong in light of that.
Good luck crusading in the face of simpler communication, then.

Terrapin_Station 11-25-2015 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1654751)
Do you start a discussion about how there actually is no god and the whole concept is man-made and meaningless every time someone says 'Oh my god'?
No. But I might start a discussion like that if people were to say something like, "Wait, are you talking about God or the numinous? We need to make that distinction."

grindy 11-25-2015 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1654753)
No. But I might start a discussion like that if people were to say something like, "Wait, are you talking about God or the numinous? We need to make that distinction."
Because you wouldn't see the difference between those terms. But you knew what I was talking about right? It might be some pet peeve of yours, but it doesn't change that you knew what I meant.
Welcome to the vague but useful world of communication.

Terrapin_Station 11-25-2015 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1654762)
Because you wouldn't see the difference between those terms.
Because it's important to not promote misconceptions, in my opinion, even if they're popular.

The Batlord 11-25-2015 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1654738)
I'm going to assume that you're talking about at least a simplification of conventionally accepted "good technique" a la music schools, private music teachers, etc., sure.

But to an extent, assuming that there are anything like universals in that realm is a fiction, and why would we kowtow to it and pretend that it's anything more than it is, re using it to refer to a "favorite"/"best" distinction? That just promotes misconceptions and fallacies--it leads folks to accept argumentum ad populums as having some sort of weight for truth value. It doesn't make the supposed distinction conceptually coherent. Why promote something incoherent?
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The Identity Matrix 11-25-2015 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1654695)
Matt grasps for air after each sentence, which is kinda annoying.
True, he definitely is not in the top echelon of rock singers for multiple reasons, one being his constant breaths after each line, another is he can sometimes deliver a very whiny performance. But he definitely has talent. The major reason I gave him a mention was because of how well he can compliment the sound of his band. Some singers who have much more talent, for example Geoff Tate, tend to not be able to accomplish that as consistently as Matt.

Disclaimer: Muse is not better than Queensryche


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