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View Poll Results: Alice In Chains vs Nirvana
Alice In Chains 7 38.89%
Nirvana 11 61.11%
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Old 03-06-2016, 04:23 PM   #21 (permalink)
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One of the saddest behind Ian Curtis. That was next level sad
Agreed.

If you haven't already, watch the Montage of Heck.

Kurt Cobain had so much more to offer in music, probably didn't even realise that he was a genius.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:44 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Buzz Osbourne called 90% of that documentary total bull****. Just stupid stuff Kurt came up with on a whim. Not a bad documentary of course, but still misleading.
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Well, grunge in general was a shout against the glam metal bands. In fact, when glam was done, grunge started getting popular.
That's a weird way to phrase it. It was actually a very rapid turnover and felt a lot more like grunge booted glam metal off the charts at the time.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:19 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I suppose so. Still many of the best glam albums came out before 91.

Except for Hey Stoopid. Great album.
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Old 03-12-2016, 12:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Expected a somewhat close poll, but we need to get out the Alice In Chains vote.

I'm going to compare using Dirt because it's AIC's seminal album, and In Utero because it's my favorite Nirvana album, and therefore the only real competitor against AIC.

Dirt vs In Utero by tracklisting:

1) "Them Bones" < "Serve the Servants"
2) "Dam That River" > "Scentless Apprentice"
3) "Rain When I Die" < "Heart-Shaped Box." "RWID" is better live, though.
4) "Down In A Hole" < "Rape Me." Holy **** this is close. "DIAH" is better-written musically, but "Rape Me" isn't as much of a downer vibe-wise/rocking-wise, ironically.
5) "Sickman" < "Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle"
6) "Rooster" > "Dumb"
7) "Junkhead" = "Very Ape." It's a tie.
8) "Dirt" > "Milk It"
9) "God Smack" < "Pennyroyal Tea"
10) "Iron Man" < "Radio Friendly Unit Shifter." Nirvana's filler song beats AIC's ****ty filler song.
11) "Hate to Feel" > "Tourette's
12) "Angry Chair" < "All Apologies"

At this point, it's 4 in favor of AIC, 7 for Nirvana, and 1 no decision. But Dirt has a 13th song that In Utero does not, and it beats everything in Nirvana's catalogue, handily.

#13 - "Would?"



  • I like both bands, I respect both bands, but the musicianship in AIC is superior.
  • Jerry wrote better songs than Cobain, music-wise (not popularly).
  • Nirvana's work hasn't aged very well when you really break things down.
  • While Layne was not a great lyricist, Kurdt was overrated as a lyricist. Kurdt even said himself that some of his lyrics were strung-together nonsense.
  • Given that, "Serve the Servants" is Kurdt's finest display, lyrically.
  • While both experienced similar troubles, there's something more human and genuine about Staley's work, and that will never change for me.

Take "Would?" and add some Jar of Flies, and it's game over for Nirvana.

*The above only counts the Layne years for AIC.
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Kurdt? Also, Nirvana still wins.
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Kurdt? Also, Nirvana still wins.
Yes, I interlaced that as a bit of trivia. See infold from Incesticide. Kurdt is the blonde one.

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Also, Nirvana still wins.
Dubious.
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Oh, okay, now I get the Kobain reference.
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6) "Rooster" > "Dumb"
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If this kick in the nads is to insinuate that "Dumb" is the better song, then I have some bad news. "Dumb," while I do think it's album-worthy, is very close to being a B-side due to it's monotone nature (the cello saves it). "Rooster," on the other hand, is an A-list tune. Don't know why people hate on it more than a lot of AIC's other songs.

Again, I like both songs, but "Rooster" is the king of this coop.
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