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The Batlord 08-16-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1731220)
Ja, like that.

Tying your brain into a knot is using it I suppose.

Frownland 08-16-2016 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1731223)
Tying your brain into a knot is using it I suppose.

It's quite simple if you actually consider what the piece is instead of just thinking it's a "silent" piece, actually. That's what I meant by intentionally misunderstanding the piece.

Janszoon 08-16-2016 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1731192)
And yet you can't take power metal?

I've never heard any that I enjoyed. If you have some recommendations, by all means let me know.

Tristan_Geoff 08-16-2016 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1731233)
I've never heard any that I enjoyed. If you have some recommendations, by all means let me know.

Definitely DragonForce. Most well known=best amirite?

The Batlord 08-16-2016 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1731227)
It's quite simple if you actually consider what the piece is instead of just thinking it's a "silent" piece, actually. That's what I meant by intentionally misunderstanding the piece.

Yeah, it's performance art. I don't even know how it qualifies as a piece, and the fact that you self-consciously keep calling it that suggests that you don't either.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1731233)
I've never heard any that I enjoyed. If you have some recommendations, by all means let me know.

Not really lol.

Frownland 08-16-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1731237)
Yeah, it's performance art. I don't even know how it qualifies as a piece, and the fact that you self-consciously keep calling it that suggests that you don't either.



Not really lol.

It's because piece is conventional terminology for a classical music composition. Go ahead and ignore the fact that the piece is all about sound and expanding the paradigm of what we consider instruments.

kibbeh 08-16-2016 06:37 PM

but its music with no music

Mondo Bungle 08-16-2016 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1731233)
I've never heard any that I enjoyed. If you have some recommendations, by all means let me know.


The Batlord 08-16-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1731239)
It's because piece is conventional terminology for a classical music composition. Go ahead and ignore the fact that the piece is all about sound and expanding the paradigm of what we consider instruments.

But regardless of whether or not there is sheet music to it, it was only composed in the technical sense. Cage could have put any number of rests on that page and it would have meant nothing. He could have literally put nothing and it would have been just as meaningless. No matter how you feel about 4'33, calling it a piece or a composition is like calling a paper airplane an actual plane. Technically correct, but ****ing pointless.

So stop calling it a piece cause it's ****ing stupid.

And using words like "paradigm" when trying to explain pretentious nonsense is just as stupid as calling 4'33 a piece.

What have I begun?

Frownland 08-16-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1731245)
But regardless of whether or not there is sheet music to it, it was only composed in the technical sense. Cage could have put any number of rests on that page and it would have meant nothing. He could have literally put nothing and it would have been just as meaningless. No matter how you feel about 4'33, calling it a piece or a composition is like calling a paper airplane an actual plane. Technically correct, but ****ing pointless.

Lulz. And I guess that there being fifty different ways to dictate an A# invalidates any notation using that note too then?

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And using words like "paradigm" when trying to explain pretentious nonsense is just as stupid as calling 4'33 a piece.
Like I mentioned earlier, I'm using my brain to form my opinion and that occasionally includes words.

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