Oh. Looks like you're the one confusing whatever that is with a pick.

Harsh vocals have never been a problem for me tbh

Meh. It was literally over a year ago. The point is that you're goofy.

I think Goofle is one of our best mods. Thanks.

Personally, whenever I get harsh vocals I usually reach for a throat lozenge. Sometimes gargling with salt water helps, too.

I like deepthroating cocks personally

I discovered Screamed/growled/yelled/shrieked vocals in 8th grade.

I had a computer teacher that played music containing that vocal style. I was too young to understand what I was hearing. But I enjoyed it. Everyone else in the class spent the whole time bitching. How dare a teacher plays music he likes! :rolleyes:

But after that initial encounter with it I forgot about it. Til a little bit later on my mother had her mid life crisis. Instead of going to night clubs and listening to new age pop, she went the counter culture route. She played heavy metal as loud as she could, and went to concerts regularly. That was my reintroduction and this time the music stuck.

Going back to the 4'33 discussion again, this is my opinion. My personal definition of what makes a song is this, "As long as there is noise being made and someone is enjoying it, it's music." Since there is no noise, I can't call it music. But i do like the conversati0n it creates. Very interesting.

I love extreme vocals. It's just that a lot of "extreme" metal vocals are really just dull and annoying. Especially deep death metal growls. **** those.

They don't annoy me, but a lot of death metal vocals are boring. Most vocalists just don't have enough bottom end in their singing for them to stick with just that style. But some do...

Thorr's Hammer - Troll

When I was younger I only really listened to bad pop punk, starting with Sum 41.
As a friend got me into Four Year Strong, people would tell me to get into A Day To Remember. But I didn't like it because A: It mostly sounded depressing instead of happy, and B: The growling. I not only found it unpleasant/too harsh, I also found it to sound silly/kind of funny. I kept listening to the song ''Heartless'' as it somehow stood out to me, and eventually got used to it. That unpleasant element somehow kept drawing me into the song. Another one that got me into the vocals was Everytime I Die, which unlike a Day To Remember I actually still like. Something that got me over the silliness as opposed to the heaviness of Extreme Vocals was, well, falling in love with Punk. A lot of Punk vocals are super amateurish and thus sounded strange to me at first but I ended up adoring it, thus silly extreme vocals weren't an issue.

Nowadays I adore extreme vocals. However, I do sometimes find constant monotone screaming to get boring. I a: Need some less tense or heavy parts to make the heavy parts more special, and b: I like having some kind of hook or catchy melodies to make it more memorable and fun. I also love screams on top of relatively happy music. Because of all this I find something like PEARS perfect.

https://pearstheband.bandcamp.com/track/victim-to-be-3

It has clean but still raw catchy melodic parts, raw shouts/mixed parts, and screams/growls. It has a balanced mix of happy and non happy parts. It has melody but not too much melody.

One type of Extreme Vocals I just really don't like is those of Brutal Death Metal. Those pig growls sound extremely silly to me unless just a small part of a song. This is coming from a dude who loves even the silliest and awkward of ''Crack Rock Steady'' bands their vocals (example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5dXkUAOlUA), so it's kinda hypocritical. Brutal Death vocals are constantly low and lack the energy I dig in Extreme vocals, it lacks that tensity I love. They also sound disgusting in a way I'm not a fan of, I'd rather have a Crusty type of dirtiness.