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Old 08-24-2016, 05:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Just read up on this. ZZ Top were sued and won cause the court determined that the rhythm and riff were in the public domain.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Just read up on this. ZZ Top were sued and won cause the court determined that the rhythm and riff were in the public domain.
Who sued ZZ Top?
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Who sued ZZ Top?
The copyright holder of Boogie Chillin.
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Ok. Someone help me out. I'm lost how Led Zeppelin stole from black people. I mean, the only people that you could actually say they stole from are white artists. The black musicians were all credited.
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:27 PM   #25 (permalink)
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it's not that they stole anything it's that they adopted a style of music pioneered by oppressed African Americans in the south, outsiders

And then just made it lame, a crime in itself really
While they didn't make the genre better, they didn't make it lame. Led Zeppelin is a great band. I just don't get why it says in the title they stole.
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"adopted for a white audience" is the proper terminology

See: Elvis

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Old 08-24-2016, 08:57 PM   #27 (permalink)
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The copyright holder of Boogie Chillin.
Oh well I didn't know that. I would have to see how they play it, to compare. Sometimes things sound the same but are just played differently on guitar. I mean if Billy Gibbons was inspired by anyone I would guess it would be Blues players he was into, like Robert Johnson, Lightnin' Hopkins etc etc.
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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nah that's boring to me
I used to actually think I hated the blues but then I heard it done right and pure:

Blech re the idea of purism. (Yay for the blues, though.)

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it's not that they stole anything it's that they were influenced by a lot of great music, including styles that were primarily developed by African American artists.

And then they transformed all of those diverse influences into something that seemed as if it were transmitted directly from the gods to us.

Just stressing how magical Led Zep was.
Agreed. We usually seem to have quite different tastes and dispositions, but I agree with you 100% on that one.
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