New Metallica album coming out November 18, 2016 -- Hardwired..To Self-Destruct

**Frownland** · 08-23-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

The short clip from 2:07 onwards in the album trailer at least sounds a bit more interesting than the lead single. I don't know though. A major problem with Metallica in my opinion is that they tend to write excessively bloated songs these days. The upcoming album is 80 minutes, 2 discs, 6 tracks per disc. Do the math...
I'm fine with other bands writing long songs, but metallica don't know what to do with those extra minutes any more except just play all the riffs 4 times more than necessary and add a ton of hamfisted transitions.

Accurate as ****, well put.

Blank. · 08-23-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

That's why I said "these days". On the St. Anger, Death Magnetic/Beyond Magnetic and Lulu albums, plus that damn Lords of Summer song, those kinds of interesting musical passages that keeps Master of Puppets afloat are nowhere to be seen. I'm pretty sure Kirk Hammet forgot how to play melodies with his guitar, too.

Oh! I agree with you then.

Terrapin_Station · 08-23-2016, 01:33 PM

I'd be surprised if I didn't love it. I've pretty much loved everything they've done, including St. Anger and even Lulu.

No kidding.

No. Seriously.

**Frownland** · 08-23-2016, 01:35 PM

I think that St. Anger gets entirely too much flak (might be a nostalgia thing), but love?

That's just unethical.

Blank. · 08-23-2016, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think that St. Anger gets entirely too much flak (might be a nostalgia thing), but love?

That's just unethical.

From a production standpoint, I hate it. The album could of been great.

**Frownland** · 08-23-2016, 01:38 PM

That makes me wonder, did they ever have good sound quality? The classic albums are passable, but they're nothing to write home about in that sense. The only time I think the production works is with Kill 'Em All, and that was basically done in a lofi way on accident.

Blank. · 08-23-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That makes me wonder, did they ever have good sound quality? The classic albums are passable, but they're nothing to write home about in that sense. The only time I think the production works is with Kill 'Em All, and that was basically done in a lofi way on accident.

Well, the thing is that some bands just can't have good production. Metallica is at their best when they have low production. Take Master Of Puppets for example. It has low production quality, because it's very spacious in sound. But then you have death magnetic, with nearly perfect production but it seems to ruin the songs. As good as Metallica is, they're songwriting doesn't work for over-production.

Dylstew · 08-23-2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

I'd be surprised if I didn't love it. I've pretty much loved everything they've done, including St. Anger and even Lulu.

No kidding.

No. Seriously.

Nononono you gotta be pulling my dick here come on man stop ****in' with me, seriously dude.

**Frownland** · 08-23-2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Well, the thing is that some bands just can't have good production. Metallica is at their best when they have low production. Take Master Of Puppets for example. It has low production quality, because it's very spacious in sound. But then you have death magnetic, with nearly perfect production but it seems to ruin the songs. As good as Metallica is, they're songwriting doesn't work for over-production.

When I say good production, I mean the production that best suits the music so it could either be lofi or hifi. I don't think they've ever achieved quality in that aspect tbh.

Terrapin_Station · 08-23-2016, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think that St. Anger gets entirely too much flak (might be a nostalgia thing), but love?

That's just unethical.

Haha.

I always loved that drum sound, too. (And I'm a drummer. Well and a bassist and keyboardist.)

I've had a particular fondness for tightly-tuned, clangy, wide-open snare drums since I was a kid. Charlie Watts used to use a clangy snare a lot, but a lot of jazz players have used that sound, too.

08-23-2016, 01:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I think that St. Anger gets entirely too much flak (might be a nostalgia thing), but love? That's just unethical. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-23-2016, 01:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	That makes me wonder, did they ever have good sound quality? The classic albums are passable, but they're nothing to write home about in that sense. The only time I think the production works is with Kill 'Em All, and that was basically done in a lofi way on accident. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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08-23-2016, 01:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Terrapin_Station Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NYC Man Posts: 877	I'd be surprised if I didn't love it. I've pretty much loved everything they've done, including St. Anger and even Lulu. No kidding. No. Seriously.