Originally Posted by MicShazam

Dude, I literally said in my OP that Cathedral is better. They're Sabbath Derrived doom metal, but with much better songs than this. And not exactly complex. I only said they are basic because there's not a lot to "get" in that sense. Maybe in another, but that's where someone should say what instead of just getting mad at me for not getting "it". Whatever it is.

I don't see how this is immune to criticism just because it's got a crazy guitar sound.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Except Cathedral don't crush buildings. They seem like a band with subtlety in a genre that maybe doesn't require subtlety.

Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

i’ll be the first to admit i don’t get the talking heads

Originally Posted by Janszoon

What's to get? They're heads and they talk.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by MicShazam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fMbgedL8GQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNtGlCGgXU

But yeah, I don't have that testosterone and aggression based approach to metal. It probably explains a lot of my take on metal that, along with metal, my other favorite genre is singer-songwriter.

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don't really think of Electric Wizard as aggressive. More like vast, elemental, and hypnotic.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by MicShazam

This album feels super long.

I'm sure no one would be the least bit surprised that I'm not impressed with it, so go ahead and complain that I just don't get it and that I'm gay and whatever.

Basically, I find these songs really boring and unimaginative. Black Sabbath and Cathedral did all of this 10-30 years earlier and much better too. This album is largely one note. Dip into any random moment on the album and it's going to sound identical to almost any other moment on the album. That's an exaggeration, but I do think this album is repetitive and uninteresting.

The fact that the album is from 2000 makes it really unimpressive. If they spear headed this kind of music, at least then I could understand it being so underdeveloped. Take away the grimey production and it's just a bunch of really dull metal tunes with nothing much going for them.

2/10

Originally Posted by Wpnfire

Nah. The riffs sound like blues riffs stripped down to an inhuman level.

Originally Posted by Wpnfire

This is far darker and more nihilistic than the bluesy stuff Black Sabbath or Cathedral did.

Originally Posted by Wpnfire

I think you're not giving them enough credit with the songwriting either. Only two songs on this album have similar construction, and "I, the Witchfinder" is one of the most unique songs I've ever heard in metal.

Originally Posted by MicShazam

Darkness and nihilism are preoccupations of the teenage mind.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.