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Old 11-30-2009, 08:20 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Limp Bizkit is awful.
I know it.
You know it.
But fuck if I'm not going to listen to this.
I'm a sucker for nostalgia.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:28 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Limp Bizkit is awful.
I know it.
You know it.
But fuck if I'm not going to listen to this.
I'm a sucker for nostalgia.
Haha... you know what? I read this and realized you're right. I'm gonna listen to this at least once...there's just no way I won't.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:23 PM   #123 (permalink)
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The irony is that RATM were tough guy wigger nu-metal MTV crap too.
No they weren't. Please tell me why you think they were.














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Old 11-30-2009, 10:27 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Yeah I'll listen to it one last time too. Kinda' how like I'll smell the milk container that's been in the fridge for too long just to make sure it's as nasty and disgusting as I'm sure it is.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:35 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Yeah I'll listen to it one last time too. Kinda' how like I'll smell the milk container that's been in the fridge for too long just to make sure it's as nasty and disgusting as I'm sure it is.
That's a good way to put it. I know that they aren't my thing (I try to avoid being insulting but in this case I think we all agree they aren't very good) but if I don't give this new album atleast chance than that really goes against this whole open mind asthetic I've been trying to force myself into. Plus I'm sure it'll be fun to be in the countless jokes that are sure to abound from it.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:22 PM   #126 (permalink)
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The irony is that RATM were tough guy wigger nu-metal MTV crap too.
I find it difficult to believe they were "tough guy wigger nu-metal MTV crap" when:

1. Tough guy: many of their lyrics are outspoken against violence

2. Wigger: their front man is of Mexican descent

3. Nu-Metal: they formed before nu-metal existed

4. MTV: their first music video, for their first single 'Killing in the Name', was just some footage from a live performance
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:44 AM   #127 (permalink)
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thing is RATM did appeal to the exact same demographic of 'tough guy wigger nu-metal mtv' fans as Limp Bizkit.

nu-metal had also been around for a few years before Rage (suicidal tendencies / biohazard etc.), the term just hadn't been coined yet.

it's clear as day that Rage is a superior group to Bizkit but they both most definitely owe a debt to MTV for the level of success they managed to achieve. i don't doubt that RATM could have amounted to something completely independently (maybe even with a reversal of the hypocrisy / integrity ratio). Bizkit on the other hand is a band of coattail riders.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:07 AM   #128 (permalink)
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3. Nu-Metal: they formed before nu-metal existed
So Television isn't punk? Nirvana isn't grunge?
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:44 PM   #129 (permalink)
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thing is RATM did appeal to the exact same demographic of 'tough guy wigger nu-metal mtv' fans as Limp Bizkit.

nu-metal had also been around for a few years before Rage (suicidal tendencies / biohazard etc.), the term just hadn't been coined yet.

it's clear as day that Rage is a superior group to Bizkit but they both most definitely owe a debt to MTV for the level of success they managed to achieve. i don't doubt that RATM could have amounted to something completely independently (maybe even with a reversal of the hypocrisy / integrity ratio). Bizkit on the other hand is a band of coattail riders.
I think the biggest difference between the two groups is Rage had something to say - and say it they did. Bizkit had nothing to say - and say it they did.
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:31 PM   #130 (permalink)
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So Television isn't punk? Nirvana isn't grunge?
Those bands helped define those genres. I don't see RATM as a seminal nu-metal band. Nu-metal wasn't born until KoRn and the gang came along...
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