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PaddyPooHead 10-02-2009 05:23 PM

White Pony is stunning, I haven't listened to much of their other work though.

sidewinder 02-16-2010 09:10 PM

New Deftones album finally announced! Diamond Eyes, May 18 2010.

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Deftones is proud to announce the title and release date of the brand new record. Diamond Eyes will be available everywhere May 18. The first track to be released is called "Rocket Skates", and will be available for free download at deftones.com next Tuesday, February 23. Head over to Deftones Myspace right now for a sneak preview.
Preview, sounds nice and heavy from what little you get:


Violent & Funky 02-16-2010 09:17 PM

I might check this out. I have Around the Fur and White Pony and think decently enough of them...

duga 02-16-2010 09:30 PM

Glad to hear they are still making music. I just hope this is better than Saturday Night Wrist...that album had some moments but it is nowhere near White Pony.

It just feels like after White Pony, they felt like all their amazing album powers were gone and just didn't want to put the effort in again. Adrenaline to Around the Fur to White Pony...such growth and then BAM self titled comes out. It also had its moments but I had sooo much more hope after White Pony.

As you can tell I really like this band. They are probably the ONLY band that ever got lumped in with nu metal that I still give a crap about. Never thought they deserved to be stuck with those guys, anyways.

sidewinder 02-16-2010 10:37 PM

Yeah I'm with you, one of the few tied in with Nu metal that I care about. Tool gets tied in quite often, or at least used to before the progressive rock label became popular again.

I also agree that Saturday Night Wrist was a bit of a disappointment, despite the great artwork. I liked the self-titled better. You're right that it wasn't as strong as the first 3, but I still like it quite a bit.

TheBig3 05-13-2011 09:36 PM



Saturday Night Wrist had Hole in the Earth which is incredible.

Freebase Dali 05-13-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1053054)


Saturday Night Wrist had Hole in the Earth which is incredible.

Nice vid! You can't go wrong with a cute girl playing a Deftones song.
And I agree, Hole in the Earth is the best tune on Wrist.
Xerces is another one I like a lot.

Now I'll arbitrarily post my favorite Deftones song, which resides on their self-titled album.


CanwllCorfe 05-13-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1053103)
Nice vid! You can't go wrong with a cute girl playing a Deftones song.
And I agree, Hole in the Earth is the best tune on Wrist.
Xerces is another one I like a lot.

Now I'll arbitrarily post my favorite Deftones song, which resides on their self-titled album.


LOVE that song. I think one of my all time favorites is Be Quiet and Drive. I have a LOT of memories tied to it, and I just love it. Something about the notes.. or just general feeling of it.

djchameleon 05-14-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 412841)
I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on their last album.....I bought their last album as my first album from them and well.....I don't know....

I guess I should have used the title of the album I was talking about.

It was Saturday Night Wrist.

It was my first album from them and I didn't like it at all. I felt it only had one good track on it and I had very mixed feelings about it.

Freebase Dali 05-14-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1053130)
I guess I should have used the title of the album I was talking about.

It was Saturday Night Wrist.

It was my first album from them and I didn't like it at all. I felt it only had one good track on it and I had very mixed feelings about it.

Personally, as a Deftones fan, I think you should literally work through their discography in order of release date. Wrist is definitely not an album you can encapsulate them with.

djchameleon 05-14-2011 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1053141)
Personally, as a Deftones fan, I think you should literally work through their discography in order of release date. Wrist is definitely not an album you can encapsulate them with.

I did have singles from their earlier works that I enjoyed but never listened to a full album of theirs until I listened to Saturday


That will be on my to do list, to listen to their discography from the beginning.

Freebase Dali 05-14-2011 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1053143)
I did have singles from their earlier works that I enjoyed but never listened to a full album of theirs until I listened to Saturday


That will be on my to do list, to listen to their discography from the beginning.

Definitely do that.
Best albums, imo, are Adrenaline, White Pony, Around the Fur, and the self-titled. (Only for a couple songs on the self titled). But definitely start from Adrenaline and move forward. If you like Deftones at all, you will like something in all their albums.

I don't really like Wrist all that much, save for a few songs, and their latest is pretty good but I've found myself only really caring about a few songs on it. The gold is in Adrenaline, White Pony, and Around the Fur.

duga 05-14-2011 08:47 AM

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Agreed. By release date is the best way to do it. At least Around the Fur and then White Pony (minus Back to School... It drags the album down IMO). Th band claim they slapped together Around the Fur really fast and took their time with White Pony so it is interesting to hear them at their most sporadic and then their most focused.

BastardofYoung 05-14-2011 09:16 AM

Back to School was the song that label wanted on the record, not the band.. even they didn't want that one on there. I do not believe it was even on the original pressings, just the colored editions. It does hold it back a bit, but not much. White Pony is still their best work.

TheBig3 05-14-2011 11:09 AM

No recess!

Natdeftones 06-24-2011 07:47 PM

Adore them! Adrenaline and White Pony are beyond awesome albums honestly cant fault 99.9% of stuff theyve ever done :) Also really love Diamond eyes , they just evolve and grow per release

[MERIT] 06-24-2011 07:56 PM

Diamond Eyes was good, even though it seemed to have completely different undertones than most of their albums.

Natdeftones 06-24-2011 08:05 PM

yeah some of its pretty chilled love it though they can do no wrong in my eyes

[MERIT] 06-24-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Natdeftones (Post 1076424)
they can do no wrong in my eyes

That's a dangerous musical attitude to have, but as long as you only apply it to your favorite bands I can't really fault you :yeah:

Freebase Dali 06-24-2011 08:12 PM

They can definitely do wrong. They did a lot of it in Saturday Night Wrist.

Natdeftones 06-25-2011 06:36 AM

ha I suppose with SNW you have a point ;) still, not my least fave album in the world

bantermusic_uk 06-27-2011 01:01 PM

AROUND THE FUR - always! :D

crash_override 06-29-2011 03:28 AM

I've always wondered, is it "The Deftones"? Or just "Deftones"?

djchameleon 06-29-2011 03:57 AM

it's just Deftones

Janszoon 06-29-2011 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1078508)
I've always wondered, is it "The Deftones"? Or just "Deftones"?

It's "An Deftones".

Howard the Duck 06-29-2011 06:29 AM

just bought "Diamond Eyes"

pretty good, I guess

Freebase Dali 06-30-2011 12:57 PM

I liked Diamond Eyes a lot less the more I listened to it. There are some good tracks, but they don't really stick out and say much.

Howard the Duck 06-30-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1079034)
I liked Diamond Eyes a lot less the more I listened to it. There are some good tracks, but they don't really stick out and say much.

it's a pretty good intro for me

i was gonna get s/t but it had a lot of "extra" content i don't need

Rjinn 06-26-2012 10:44 AM

Deftones
 
Anyone else into this band? White Pony and self titled are pretty good. Their newer stuff - Diamond Eyes and Saturday Night Wrist maybe weaker than their previous discography but worth a listen.

Above 06-26-2012 10:53 AM

I listened to their debut and it didn't do much for me. Might have to revisit it sometime but it bored me and I've never met anyone who's a fan.

Unknown Soldier 06-26-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1203575)
I listened to their debut and it didn't do much for me. Might have to revisit it sometime but it bored me and I've never met anyone who's a fan.

Its a great album.

Exo 06-26-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1203575)
I listened to their debut and it didn't do much for me. Might have to revisit it sometime but it bored me and I've never met anyone who's a fan.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1203582)
Its a great album.

Now you guys are mates.

14232949 06-26-2012 11:58 AM

My favourite albums are; Saturday Night Wrist and Around The Fur.
Never heard their debut, I'm assuming it's worth getting?

duga 06-26-2012 03:22 PM

^

Yeah, I'd say their debut, Around the Fur, and White Pony are like their holy trinity of albums. I really enjoyed Deftones, got bored by Saturday Night Wrist, and Diamond Eyes was a step up but they didn't change their sound like they did from the debut to White Pony. I love hearing them go from nu metal/rap metal type stuff to Bowie-influenced alt rock.

14232949 06-26-2012 04:01 PM

Really? I enjoyed Saturday Night Wrist, as well as Diamond Eyes.
I believe there's a new Deftones album scheduled for release later this year.

Also, have you heard the frontmans side project +++ (or Crosses) it's like an alt. rock group with an electro vibe.
They released their second EP this year and it's actually surprisingly good.

duga 06-26-2012 04:07 PM

Not saying I didn't enjoy them to an extent. I just think their first 3 albums are untouchable. I'll be surprised if they can do something comparable to White Pony again, but I am a Deftones die hard so I'll listen to anything they put out. Team Sleep was alright...I didn't know about his other side project. I'll have to check that out.

Norg 06-27-2012 12:23 AM

im shocked alot of u praise there first two albums so much sine thoes were pretty much Nu metal by the book ..even chino himself one time said there first two albums were pretty much the adolecent teen albums ..or angry albums

they were pretty much the most Raw and heavy cugga chugga riff albums

its not intill Frank showed up there Keyboard/synth player that they started to expermint and never look back

i 4 one like all there albums and saturday night was cool IMO it was there first album that pretty much was 100% alt rock it put them in that world so to say

Rjinn 06-27-2012 12:46 AM

I agree. They were a lot more ambient with their later recordings. White pony was an experimental mixture of hard play mixed with ambience. I wouldn't really consider them nu-metal. But definitely influenced it, along with Rage Against the Machine.

Metal Connoisseur 06-27-2012 07:58 AM

I read somewhere not too long ago that the Deftones vocalist, Chino Moreno, would be releasing an album with Aaron Turner from Isis. Sounds interesting and could be really good.

duga 06-27-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1203797)
im shocked alot of u praise there first two albums so much sine thoes were pretty much Nu metal by the book ..even chino himself one time said there first two albums were pretty much the adolecent teen albums ..or angry albums

they were pretty much the most Raw and heavy cugga chugga riff albums

its not intill Frank showed up there Keyboard/synth player that they started to expermint and never look back

i 4 one like all there albums and saturday night was cool IMO it was there first album that pretty much was 100% alt rock it put them in that world so to say

I already mentioned that Adrenaline is very nu metalish. Still, I did have a nu metal phase in my younger days, and it was one of my favorites. That along with Korn's debut are the only nu metal albums that have carried on into my more mature days...if more had been like those, the genre wouldn't have turned into a huge parody of itself. Around the Fur already showed some growth and I honestly find it to be closer to really heavy alt rock than nu metal. It had so much melody behind those chugging riffs...White Pony was a natural progression from that, in my opinion. If you think Saturday Night Wrist is alt rock, then why not Around the Fur? They basically admitted to trying to recapture that energy there.


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