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Urban Hat€monger ? 10-16-2005 11:21 AM

Anyone who argues that Led Zeppelin had more recognisable songs than The Who needs their head tested.

The Who were one of the first Rock bands who had hit single after hit single who appeared on Radio & TV on a regular basis.
Led Zeppelin didn`t release any singles they never did any TV & they were hardly ever on the radio , to hear Led Zeppelin you either had to buy the albums or see them live.
I`d say if you played a non fan songs by both bands they`d recognize stuff like My Generation & Pinball Wizard much better than any of the Led Zep songs mentioned in the post above.

antman188 10-16-2005 12:02 PM

I'm not saying that Zeppelin had [I]more[I] recognizable songs than the Who. Im just saying they have recognizable songs as well. I would agree that people would know Pinball over the songs i mentioned (if only because it's the most played song from Tommy). I guess I should have been more specific.

Merkaba 10-16-2005 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Anyone who argues that Led Zeppelin had more recognisable songs than The Who needs their head tested.

The Who were one of the first Rock bands who had hit single after hit single who appeared on Radio & TV on a regular basis.
Led Zeppelin didn`t release any singles they never did any TV & they were hardly ever on the radio , to hear Led Zeppelin you either had to buy the albums or see them live.
I`d say if you played a non fan songs by both bands they`d recognize stuff like My Generation & Pinball Wizard much better than any of the Led Zep songs mentioned in the post above.

Isn't that because The Who made radio friendly music? It didn't exactly exceed the 4 minute mark so radio dj's weren't shooting themselves in the foot like they would by playing 8 minutes of Stairway.

It's easy to have single after single when they are over in a couple of minutes. Although in saying that, The Who deserved all the radio play and acknowledgement that they got. I just wouldn't want these two bands to be judged on their radio play because Led Zeppelin would get mown down in a flash.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-17-2005 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba
Isn't that because The Who made radio friendly music? It didn't exactly exceed the 4 minute mark so radio dj's weren't shooting themselves in the foot like they would by playing 8 minutes of Stairway.

No it`s because Led Zeppelin didn`t release singles, and up until 1988 in the UK you were not allowed to play album tracks on the radio.

Merkaba 10-17-2005 01:43 AM

Oh excellent...I learnt something today. Just wondering you see.

boo boo 10-17-2005 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
No it`s because Led Zeppelin didn`t release singles, and up until 1988 in the UK you were not allowed to play album tracks on the radio.

And there are a handfull of songs from Tommy, Whos Next and Quadrophena that are around 4 to 8 minutes.

boris jawaka 10-17-2005 04:41 PM

like i said in moon v peart,

these polls breed anger and hate

you cant compare led zep and the who - they are both great but they are both very different to each other and comparing them is just wrong.

its just like comparing jazz with rock, or mozart with mccartney

Chronic 10-17-2005 06:30 PM

The Who were good, but let's face it LZ were absolute beasts. Never has there been such a talented group of musical genuises. The Who should be compared to the Beatles not LZ, and the Beatles I'm afraid would pummel them there as well (they'd prety much pummel anyone)

As for The Who > LZ, live...Meh LZ were a live band. 350+ million record sales, with only Elvis and the Beatles topping them, speaks for itself.

EDGE 10-17-2005 07:48 PM

surprise, surprise.
I picked Zeppelin.
But I do love The Who

anticipation 10-17-2005 07:53 PM

The Who, because Page couldn't hold a candle to Townsend.

TheBig3 10-17-2005 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
No it`s because Led Zeppelin didn`t release singles, and up until 1988 in the UK you were not allowed to play album tracks on the radio.

What the hell was the reason for this?

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-17-2005 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
What the hell was the reason for this?

It was some antiquated law to do with the performing rights society. They beleived that constant radio play for a band would inhibit record sales so a law was drawn up saying that the BBC could only play a certain amount of recorded material per day & that was only singles. If they wanted to play album tracks they had to get bands in & record them playing live hence the existence of so many things such as the John Peel Sessions & BBC recorded live concerts

TheBig3 10-17-2005 10:35 PM

There seems to be merit to the idea, but terrible execution. Sort of like finance reform in the states.

Only diffrence is, when you **** up FR, the people suffer.

boo boo 10-18-2005 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny
The Who, because Page couldn't hold a candle to Townsend.

Joke right?

anticipation 10-18-2005 02:22 PM

no.

antman188 10-18-2005 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny
The Who, because Page couldn't hold a candle to Townsend.


...I...I don't know what to say. Um...I disagree...very, very strongly.

Expletive Deleted 10-18-2005 06:50 PM

I picked The Who. Zeppelin are hugely overrated.

TheBig3 10-18-2005 09:33 PM

For those of you who are new, Gentlemen Johnny is not here for the advancement of insightful discussion, he's here to **** with you.

Boo boo, you listening to him is inexcusable. Get with the times man.

Merkaba 10-19-2005 12:14 AM

:rofl:

That was great. Now thats insightful.

one_more_atrocity 10-19-2005 03:22 AM

i gotta say the who, they were the first out of the two that i listened too and they still kick ass!
xXx 1_M_A xXx

deadkennedysmeetstheclash 10-19-2005 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Joke right?

Of course Page couldn't hold a candle to Townshend songw riting wise, and singing wise, but playing guitar??? Nope, sorry Page wins..

Chronic 10-19-2005 12:29 PM

Page is an out and out beast on the guitar...every song

anticipation 10-19-2005 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
For those of you who are new, Gentlemen Johnny is not here for the advancement of insightful discussion, he's here to **** with you.

Boo boo, you listening to him is inexcusable. Get with the times man.


wtf is wrong with you? you constantly insult my intelligence and personally attack me. you have no sense of humor, and, that was insightful discussion because Page sucks. your the one who uses the internet to flame people for no apparent reason. So stop insulting me, my opinions, and my intelligence.

boo boo 10-19-2005 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
For those of you who are new, Gentlemen Johnny is not here for the advancement of insightful discussion, he's here to **** with you.

Boo boo, you listening to him is inexcusable. Get with the times man.

Sorry, im still a noob. :(

boo boo 10-19-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny
Page sucks.

Now its very obvious you are joking.

TheBig3 10-19-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny
wtf is wrong with you? you constantly insult my intelligence and personally attack me. you have no sense of humor, and, that was insightful discussion because Page sucks. your the one who uses the internet to flame people for no apparent reason. So stop insulting me, my opinions, and my intelligence.

For no apprent reason? Your intelligence? Do you honestly think posting "page sucks" really helped anything, and btw thats a direct slap to anyone who voted page.

Don't think any one buys you being the victim. There is a reason, a justifiable one, and I hope that every time you write something so counterproductive you get flammed.

boris jawaka 10-20-2005 01:47 AM

i reckon townshend was a great guitarist

although page stuck mainly with blues based solos, townshend integrated elements of jazz and even some baroque into his solos and playing

check out some of the solos on the live at the albert hall concert and listen to stuff like music must change from Who Are You and helpless dancer from quadrophenia

townshend was a genius

LylaB 10-20-2005 05:33 AM

Dammit all, I like them both!!! Grrr. I vote for Led Zep by a smidgen. :yeah:

Chronic 10-20-2005 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by boris jawaka
i reckon townshend was a great guitarist

although page stuck mainly with blues based solos, townshend integrated elements of jazz and even some baroque into his solos and playing

check out some of the solos on the live at the albert hall concert and listen to stuff like music must change from Who Are You and helpless dancer from quadrophenia

townshend was a genius

Page solo's varied quite a lot. Look at the difference between Whole Lotta Love, Achilles Last Stand and Stairway for example. Except the odd later song like Tea For One, most of the blues solos were on the earlier albums. Later on Page was much more experimental. III is mainly acoustic, IV is varied, Physical Grafitti is quite heavy/rocky, Presence is quite a varied album, as is In Through The Out Door. As for riffs he was a monster, almost every LZ song has a distinct riff

traveller 10-21-2005 04:13 AM

I love both the who and zep. Commenting on the discusiion about led zep not releasing singles, they were constantly bugged by theyre record label to release singles but always refused. this is because plant believed that an album showed the true scope and feeling of what they were doing at that particular time and each album conveyed a different message. They were forced to release Whole lotta love by theyre record label as a single in america and that was a huge success. As soon as they got theyre own label they only released albums. THe Who released singles all the time. Imagine if Stairway to heaven or Achilles Last Stand was released as a single. It would have been just as much a success as the singles released by the who. I think seeing the who live is much better than just listening to them cause in the studio you don't see the drama. Zep were also amazing on stage, the co ordination and feeling that page and plant conveyed was mind blowing. Even watching them on DVD i can't help banging my fist to the beat. I haven't seen as much of the Who as i would Like but they were amazing performers and theyre presentation of the music added a lot to the value of the songs they play.

dojo 10-24-2005 12:56 AM

Love Zeppelin more. I have only some The Who's songs I like, so it's Led Zeppelin for me :)

The Lizard King 10-26-2005 01:02 PM

Haha, well The Who were a great band, and Keith Moon an extrodinary drummer....but Zepp beats 'em easily.

Halleluwah 10-26-2005 01:29 PM

The Who are God. Zeppelin can be contenders for maybe 4th or 5th, but The Who are the best rock band of all time.

Townshend.
Daltrey.
Entwhistle.
Moon aka God.

Halleluwah 10-26-2005 01:33 PM

Plus dudes, The Who had one of the best concerts of all time(Live at Leeds). They had the first POPULAR rock opera of all time(Pretty Thing's SF Sorrow beating Tommy by 5 months), and their concerts sound the same as their albums. Keith Moon could possibly be the best musician of all time, and they released a heavy amount of amazing albums. I used to love Zeppelin and I still listen to 'The Four Horsemen( I, II, III and IV)' on a regulat basis, but I listen to Tommy, Quadrophenia, A Quick One, etc. a lot more because they deserve the recognition that is not given to them. One of the most underrated bands ever.

tdoc210 05-13-2006 08:58 PM

this is being defective, none posted in here today at all

explosions-in-my-pants 05-13-2006 09:44 PM

both bands were really popular in the 70's. Bt both in different types of music. one in pop, and the other in rock. Both were really good with lyircs, and singing.... But i still without any doubt have to go with Led Zeppelin, for being the first in metal, and for being the first band to ever really take hold of my heart and setting it free among the musical world :).

Laces Out Dan! 05-13-2006 09:50 PM

I voted Zeppelin...i really dont even like The Who that much

explosions-in-my-pants 05-13-2006 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_
I voted Zeppelin...i really dont even like The Who that much

me neither, other then the theme songs to CSI show's i don't care to hear anything else by them.:laughing:

shiftael 05-14-2006 12:30 AM

can't go wrong with either band!

Frances 05-14-2006 12:42 AM

They're both pretty good, but I'd pick Zep. I find them a little cooler.


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