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Urban Hat€monger ? 05-14-2006 01:13 AM

Without the Who there wouldn`t BE a Led Zeppelin

Frances 05-14-2006 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Without the Who there wouldn`t BE a Led Zeppelin

That's not the point.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-14-2006 01:42 AM

It`s my point

bruise_violet 05-14-2006 09:02 AM

Oh my god, this is the hardest poll ever! They are two of my favourite bands :(

sleepy jack 05-14-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Without the Who there wouldn`t BE a Led Zeppelin

Yes, and would you rather hear a song about Lord Of The Rings or Pinball?



Exactly.

Sneer 05-14-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Without the Who there wouldn`t BE a Led Zeppelin

i think thats rubbish personally. Unless you mean Keith Moon creating the name? Ive never been hugely into the Who. I accept each band member was a master musician, but though their iconic i dont personally see the appeal - their back catalogue does'nt do much for me.

TheBig3 05-14-2006 01:33 PM

/\ Master Musician? Thats stretching it mighty thin. Moon was great but not a master and Townsend is awful.

Sound Devastation 05-14-2006 01:37 PM

there should be a 'neither' option.

Sneer 05-14-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
/\ Master Musician? Thats stretching it mighty thin. Moon was great but not a master and Townsend is awful.

OK thats an interesting opinion and not one that i share - i happen to think Moon is one of the greatest theres ever been...though im not the greatest fan of townsend either.

And just for the record, the period Zeppelin had the most success was the early 70s, with 3 albums in a row going straight to number one. They were unique and enigmatic - different to anything that had preceded them. By the late 70s they were seen as a dinosaur - as hard rock was replaced by punk as the fashionable form of music.

jr. 05-14-2006 01:44 PM

Townshend, from what I've read, has always been a bit frustrated because of his lack of lead guitar skills. He holds his own on rhythm guitar, I suppose. I voted for the Who, but I own more Zep. Go figure.

PostPsychosis 05-14-2006 05:37 PM

The Who are allright, but Zeppelin is ****ing brilliant, I don't think it should even come close. The Who have a few good songs, no real GREAT songs.

boo boo 05-14-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Without the Who there wouldn`t BE a Led Zeppelin

Meh.... If you mean their name then sure.

Zeppelin o were much more influenced by chicago blues, obscure folk music and The Stones than they were by The Who.... I don't really hear any significant Who influence.

Anyway, i worship The Who and Led Zeppelin, but i prefer Pink Floyd to both. :)

boo boo 05-14-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
/\ Master Musician? Thats stretching it mighty thin. Moon was great but not a master and Townsend is awful.

Townshend awful?... Gee, makes since coming from someone who thinks Jack White is better than Eric Clapton.

Townshend wasn't very technically skilled (though he was much more fun live than Jimmy Page was), thats true, but his playing was pure energy, listen to Live At Leeds, if you think it's horrible, you have serious problems.... Let's not forget that he is also one of the most respected rhythm guitarists in the whole f*cking business.

And for the record he is better than Jack White.

sleepy jack 05-14-2006 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants
both bands were really popular in the 70's. Bt both in different types of music. one in pop, and the other in rock. Both were really good with lyircs, and singing.... But i still without any doubt have to go with Led Zeppelin, for being the first in metal, and for being the first band to ever really take hold of my heart and setting it free among the musical world :).


Sabbath came out the same time as Zeppelin, and they're just as metal as they are. So no, not the first in metal, and how is the who a pop band? Their early stuff, maybe their later stuff? Nope.

Another thing, I aint going to accept "buy todays standards they're a pop band" because you often go "well buy the standards back then zeppelin is metal" which means you're being very hypocritcal or you just have different standards, for different bands.

boo boo 05-14-2006 06:46 PM

Zeppelins first two albums were in 1969, Sabbath's first was in 1970.

sleepy jack 05-14-2006 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Zeppelins first two albums were in 1969, Sabbath's first was in 1970.

Sabbath formed in 68' as did Zeppelin. :)

boo boo 05-14-2006 06:48 PM

True, but both bands were pretty damn obscure back then.

Blue Cheer predate both, and i think their influence on metal is pretty overlooked, they were considered the loudest band in the world at that time.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-14-2006 08:10 PM

Zeppelin were obscure ...period

They weren`t played on radio or TV as far as the UK goes anyway, because they didn`t release singles & album tracks were banned.

You wanted to hear them you had to see them or buy the records.

Zeppelin were FAR from being one of the biggest bands of the 70s in the UK.

boo boo 05-14-2006 08:13 PM

In the 60s yes, but their popularity skyrocketed in the mid and late 70s.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-14-2006 08:18 PM

Zeppelins popularity didn`t skyrocket here until at least the release of the remasters box set in 1990.

Until then they were just another rock band.
I realise it may be hard to beleive for someone bought up in a country where you have radio stations dedicated to stairway. But the fact is Zeppelin were never that much of a big deal in the UK. You didn`t hear them , you didn`t see them. It wasn`t even until about 1990 that I was even aware of them.

boo boo 05-14-2006 08:22 PM

C'mon, they were performing in freakin' arenas way back in 73.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-14-2006 08:23 PM

But they wern`t a household name like the Who were.

Because , as I said they were never seen & they were never heard.

boo boo 05-14-2006 08:27 PM

On the radio sure.

But just like The Grateful Dead, a sh*t load of people went to their concerts anyway.

TSOAF_Obsessed 05-14-2006 08:30 PM

Led Zeppelin!

stymie 05-15-2006 11:06 AM

having witnessed both live twice each, count this vote to the who. both were sights...and sounds....to behold. but the who was devastating live.

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boo boo 05-15-2006 09:28 PM

I have to agree... Zeppelin's live shows were hit or miss, there were times when they were f*cking amazing live, and times when they were damn near horrible... The Who put on a great show no matter what.

However i do prefer Zeppelin, and i think their studio work was better than The Who's, just my opinion.

explosions-in-my-pants 05-16-2006 09:32 AM

Led Zeppelin in the U.S and in Canada were one of the or the biggest metal band in the 70's.

TheBig3 05-16-2006 09:46 AM

metal huh? Are we still pushing that wheel-less cart uphill?

bungalow 05-16-2006 09:52 AM

Where were you when I was trying to tell her that like 2 days ago?

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-16-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
metal huh? Are we still pushing that wheel-less cart uphill?

http://www.musicbanter.com/showpost....2&postcount=75

IF you can answer that it would be nice.

Everybody else chickened out.

Sneer 05-16-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
But they wern`t a household name like the Who were.

Because , as I said they were never seen & they were never heard.

which speaks volumes for their talent and success - 7 number one albums without ever releasing a single (at least for the duration of their career). to not have to rely on press coverage or singles to acheive success to the extent they had will never be matched.

Just for the record, the most successful period for zeppelin was the early 70s. by the mid-late late 70s they were out of fashion and seen as a dinosaur as punk swept in.

ALSO, Jack White is better then Clapton!

Stone Magnet 05-16-2006 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu
ALSO, Jack White is better then Clapton!

:laughing:

Sneer 05-16-2006 03:22 PM

Laugh all you like my freind, your only in denial. you'll see the light eventually.

TheBig3 05-16-2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu
ALSO, Jack White is better then Clapton!


pssh, **** yes he is. Clapton is boooring.

PostPsychosis 05-17-2006 10:33 AM

Wow

littleknowitall 05-17-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
pssh, **** yes he is. Clapton is boooring.

god, please tell me this is just sarcasm and im not getting it...

- voted for zeppelin.

bungalow 05-17-2006 11:31 AM

I'll agree with that.
Jack White is tenfold greater than Clapton in his ability to entertain with the guitar. His riffs are catchy. Clapton's are boring.

PostPsychosis 05-17-2006 11:34 AM

Well, in sheer skill with the instrument, Jack White doesn't stand a chance. As for entertainment, well, its all opinion, but everything I've heard from The White Stripes has been boring as ****.

boo boo 05-17-2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
pssh, **** yes he is. Clapton is boooring.

Listen to Wheels Of Fire and Disraeli Gears and tell me that.

Boring is completely subjective, it has nothing to do with being better or not, lets say i find a lot of Joe Satriani's solos to be boring, and that i enjoy Kurt Cobains playing a good deal, by your logic..................

littleknowitall 05-17-2006 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
I'll agree with that.
Jack White is tenfold greater than Clapton in his ability to entertain with the guitar. His riffs are catchy. Clapton's are boring.

i've only fallen asleep to two albums in my time, literally anyways...one by one - foo fighters and a white stripes album. they're as boring as they come. and clapton and jack white pail in comparison, clapton is a dominant guitarist in every way possible.


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