i have the money no one to take me though, im going this weekend.

Holy **** did that album let me down. Tool is one of my favorite bands, and after 5 years I was expecting a great album, not an average one. This one had a lot of filler, definitly not up to Tool standards, it seems like they spent more time on the art than the music.

I can see where your coming from, it's definitely lacking some form of killer punch. Like an Aenima track or a Third Eye. Even Ticks and Leeches.
And for all the hype of it being back to their hardarse roots, that didn't really happen.

I personally love it for what it is, it's gold, but feels a little restrained compared to all other releases.

I definitly see appeal to it, but it didn't reach me, but Tool isn't one of those bands where everyone loves the album or everyone hates it, each album is subject to a wide range of opinions with a band like Tool, and it's hard to rate their music.

I'm not even really a Tool fan, but I too had been looking forward to their new album. Unfortunatly, it just made me pull out some old Alice in Chains, and mourn Laine Staleys' (sp?) death all over again. He knew how to whine about his habits more effectivley IMO... And if I had some music journalist a**f#cker making notes during my writing and recording sessions, I'd probably turn out a sub-par album too!!

I understand exactly where your coming from dude - funnily enough, I've been listening to it since joining this forum about half an hour ago or so, and I'm currently on 10,000 days - but I also really love this album, I think it has some of Tool's best songs to date, and it's definatly got some amazing riffs. I mean, TRUELY amazing - the opening to Jambi, for example...

Only time will tell what people really think of this album though - I know I'm not going to suddenly stop loving it, but I can see it growing on a lot of people in the future.

And I do also agree with something else said - there is some unwelcome filler, but I don't find it to be in the songs...namly it's the usual filler you always get, the in-between tracks.

The instrumental track, Lost Keys, is such a moving song - the conversation at the end really opens it up.

But to sum up, I'm very happy with this album and personally give it a 10/10, simply because I can't imagine ever not liking anything that Tool launch our way.

I've listened to the album at least 30 times now, and it's still getting better with every listen.

I think it packs a lot of 'punch'. The second half of "Vicarious", the middle section of "Jambi", the last few minutes of "10,000 Days", all of "The Pot", most of "Rosetta Stoned", and the climax of "Right In Two" are all wonderfully heavy and (in most cases) epic.

I was really hoping for a Disposition/Reflection-esque track on this album, and they definitely delivered with "Intension".

"Lipan Conjuring" is a cool segue, in my opinion. The only track I haven't really been able to get into is "Viginti Tres". It just seems like a poor album closer. Then again, Faaip De Oaid wasn't the greatest ending either, but Lateralus is still one of my favourite albums of all time, so...:)

So I shouldn't waste my money in other words?

^buy it.
You can't judge a Tool album in the first month. I didnt like any of their albums on the first listen but, after a while you start noticing things you didnt notice before. I'm hoping this album is the same so far I'd say it's good hopefully a couple months from now I'll think it's great.

I liked the last three pretty quickly, if you're having to wait, well im not of the mentality that if I listen to it enough i'll like it. Thats a RH mentality that I don't subscribe to.

(fake plastic trees just came up on iTunes and now I feel like an ass)

RH mentality? In any case, some of my favorite all time albums I had to listen to a couple times before it truly hit me how amazing they were. Like Zen Arcade. And it took me quite a while to really get into Tool.

But you probably will like it on first listen, but I think it takes more listens to fully appreciate it. Buy it, in any case. If you don't like the CD, at least you'll have the trippy 3d art in the album.

I've seen some pretty unhappy reveiws about this album so far.

In other news I'm on the brink of purchasing the Salival VHS and CD!

I just hope it doesn't go too much higher then 100 bucks.

If you just want the music my friend can send it to you but, if you want to be able to say you have an actual copy it's your own money so, meh.

I've got the music. Infact, truth be told, my favourite Tool songs come from that record. Even if No Quarter is a cover, it's one of my favourite songs ever.

They're re-releasing the Salival CD/DVD package this month sometime. :P

Yeah I'd rather have the DVD but I'll take what I can get.
20 minutes to go on the auction, I'm leading on 90bucks. *crosses fingers*
This will be worth so much one day.

Edit: FUCK!!!

I lose:(

^The originals will be worth something.

if there rereleasing it, just buy the ****ing thing

90 bucks?! I'm pretty sure I've seen it on ebay for like 15 dollars, but I don't know what condition it's in.

Pick up salival on Amazon.com for roughly 50 bucks

^Na that will just be the Audio CD. The dvd, in any condition, retails at close to or well over 100buks.

SERIOUSLY? I paid roughly £30 when I bought it a few years back...

...although the VHS doesn't even play anymore.

^that's because you bought it when it came out. Trying to find it now is much different.

WTF???

Jambi has a solo...that isnt just feedback on the amp!!!
lol.
Tool Rocks.

To their credit they had two other non feedback solos. On Cold and Ugly, and Parabola.

They have a lot of non-feedback solos. http://www.invisionplus.net/forums/h...ons/mellow.gif

Im not the biggest fan of this album..

when lateralus came out it changed my life, but at that time i was listening to crappy indie pop. Tool will never have the same effect on me again, this release i cant even give a thumbs up. its OK, a decent album.. but thats all.

oh and the artwork is horrible..

How many official Tool releases have guitar solos in them, that aren't wierd noises?

All of them.

Well, I've listened to every Tool CD, multiple times, so your going to have to name a specific track besides the one's I listed, so I can go back and listen for it.

Listening to individual songs is not something you do with Tool.

I don't usually, I've already said this, but I want to hear these conventional guitar solos that they supposedly play.

I didn't really care for the new Tool album. From what I've heard its a lot more atmospheric than I like. To me Tool are becoming a heavier version of U2...just much better musicians.

I don't like the album, but I wouldn't say it's that bad.

....U2?! thats just mean.

I bought this album the day after it came out ($12 Canadian), and compared to Lateralus and Aenima, I could only rank this album as average. Too many "solid" tracks, not enough "great tracks". The cover art is my favorite of Tool's to date, however. For 12 bucks this album is still deffinetly worth it.

Adam doesn't play conventional guitar solos very often, but the majority of his solos are most definitely not 'noise' or 'feedback'.

What is it people see in TOOL????

well when i first heard them they played the weirdest, most interesting music id ever heard (i was listening to poppy indie-rock at the time). thats why i like them... they got me into experimental music.

Feel free to call it whatever you want.

new tool album, any good?
 

i was shoping in walmart and saw that tool had a new cd out. i didnt buy it because walmart has editied versions of cds and i dont like that, anyways is their new cd decent does anybody know?