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Old 05-15-2012, 01:49 PM   #61 (permalink)
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You just seemed like one of the few Doors fans I've run across that wasn't totally smitten with Jim.

I enjoy a lot of the Doors music, but never cared much for Morrison himself. He was a good fit, I agree, but I could do without him, and it'd be nice to hear another's take on those two albums. Most people never listened to them, I thought maybe you would have...
I know them quite well, musically they're good but with no Jim singing on them, they're no better than average.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:25 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:22 PM   #63 (permalink)
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One of the best American bands ever also underrated
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:35 PM   #64 (permalink)
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One of the best American bands ever also underrated
I agree but I don't think they were ever underrated, they've always appeared in lists of the most important American bands ever.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:21 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I would have to say, the parts of the Doors can be considered "underrated". What Jim brought to the Doors made them who they were, but the other three's individual talents get lost amongst his star power.

Ray was a great songwriter and always set the tone for the rest of the band.

Robbie is incredibly overlooked for his guitar playing ability and his roots with flamenco style gave his guitar parts a dimension that wasn't always obvious, but distinctive.

John Densmore is one of the best minimalist drummers ever. It's not that his style is limited or stripped down, but I can't think of a time when it ever seemed like he was doing too much or just showing off. He knew how to make the drums bleed into the music, rather than lay over the top of it. His work on 'The End' isn't an amazing technical feat by any means. But it's one of my favorite drum songs and I think one of the best performances ever. Every hit is perfectly placed in that song; whether it's helping to build the tension, beat it back, or usher in the climactic ending.

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Old 05-29-2012, 06:40 PM   #66 (permalink)
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John Densmore is one the best minimalist drummers ever. It's not that his style is limited or stripped down, but I can't think of a time when it ever seemed like he was doing too much or just showing off. He knew how to make the drums bleed into the music, rather than lay over the top of it. His work on 'The End' isn't an amazing technical feat by any means. But it's one of my favorite drum songs and I think one of the best performances ever. Every hit is perfectly placed in that song; whether it's helping to build the tension, beat it back, or usher in the climactic ending.
I've always known how great Ray Manzarek (one of my personal favourites) and Robby Krieger are, but I never thought of John Densmore as you've put him in this post. Come to think of it, he really is a fantastic drummer that melts into the music perfectly in every song. Yet another thing that I've come to appreciate about The Doors .
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:57 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I've had that argument with some friends. I Dont think Jim is any more important than the other members. They had some great songs without him, and Robbie wrote some great songs that Jim sang. The instrumentals were every bit as good or even Better than what Jim brought to the band. Would they have been as big without Jim? Of course not, I won't deny that. Would they have been as good without Jim? No. But they wouldn't have been as good without ray or Robbie, who were also indespensible parts in my opinion.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:11 PM   #68 (permalink)
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i doubt they'd be half as good without lyrics like:-

"your brain is squirming like a toad"

"this is the end, my one and only friend, the end"

"sidewalk crouches at her feet, like a dog that begs for something sweet"

"i see your hair is burning, hills are filled with fire, if they said i never loved you, they know they are liars"

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I doubt theyd be half as good without those killer piano and organ lines, and of course the guitar playing.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:22 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I doubt theyd be half as good without those killer piano and organ lines, and of course the guitar playing.
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I liked a lot of The Doors' music, but never understood the overhyped mythos
of Jim Morrison—his lyrics and voice fall short of the "greatness" category that
most people I know would place them.

Denis Leary uses this epitaph of Morrison in his comedy routine:

"Jim Morrison -- I'm drunk, I'm nobody. I'm drunk, I'm famous. I'm drunk, I'm dead."

Kinda harsh, but not too far off-target IMHO
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