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Old 09-23-2021, 09:22 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I think Telegraph Road is their best tune. And Love Over Gold is probably their best album.
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:07 AM   #52 (permalink)
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My personal ranking of Dire Straits albums:
  1. Love Over Gold
  2. Dire Straits
  3. On Every Street
  4. Making Movies
  5. Brothers In Arms
  6. Communique

I only own the first two, but they all have quality stuff, and my ranking of the other for is not set in stone.

Making Movies suffers from the fact that the second half does not come anywhere near living up to the excellent first half, and it finishes with the awful "Les Boys". "Expresso Love" rocks well enough, but sounds a bit like Dires Straits by numbers in its similarity to some of their other songs.

"Brothers In Arms" was so ridiculously overplayed here that I find it hard to judge it fairly. "So Far Away" is a rahter dull-sounding song that was improved tremendously by the treatment they gave it live when I saw them on the tour. I never need to hear "Money For Nothing" again.

"Communique" is not as bad as my ranking might suggest, but sounds a bit like a poor cousion of the debut album. It is redeemed by the two closing tracks, which seem a bit like a two-part song.

"Love Over Gold" is one of the few albums that I give a perfect score. Only five songs, but every one a winner.
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:10 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I've never understood why Mark Knoffler wasn't more highly praised for his playing.

One of the music Youtube channels did a thing where they were playing the solo from Stairway to Heaven as other guitarists might have, and what they played, and the requests in the comments section didn't include Knoffler at all. To me, his style is unique, interesting and completely unmatched.
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:47 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I've never understood why Mark Knoffler wasn't more highly praised for his playing.

One of the music Youtube channels did a thing where they were playing the solo from Stairway to Heaven as other guitarists might have, and what they played, and the requests in the comments section didn't include Knoffler at all. To me, his style is unique, interesting and completely unmatched.
I don't know what circles you move in, but I have always heard him praised for his playing. It's one of the defining characteristics of Dire Straits.
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I move in circles that do not discuss guitar players.
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Old 09-23-2021, 07:43 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I think Telegraph Road is their best tune. And Love Over Gold is probably their best album.
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My personal ranking of Dire Straits albums:
  1. Love Over Gold
  2. Dire Straits
  3. On Every Street
  4. Making Movies
  5. Brothers In Arms
  6. Communique
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I own them all (except OES, other than digitally- the others I have all om vinyl, including the excellent Alchemy) and would rank them thus:

Love Over Gold (Every track is gold; "Private Investigations" comes close to their best for me, and would be were it not for "Telegraph Road")
Alchemy (Always reminds me of watching this live on TV - not live obviously, but the concert transmitted - while the rest of my family went to mass but I had gone the previous day - yes we're/were Catholics and it is Ireland - in front of a roaring fire in winter temperatures)
Dire Straits (One of the best debuts in my estimation)
Communique (Excellent follow-up)
Brothers in Arms (I could do without "Twisting by the Pool" ffs, but it's a class album)
Making Movies (Suffers, as you say, from some truly tripe tracks)
On Every Street (end with a whimper not a bang)
I only own the first two, but they all have quality stuff, and my ranking of the other for is not set in stone.

Making Movies suffers from the fact that the second half does not come anywhere near living up to the excellent first half, and it finishes with the awful "Les Boys". "Expresso Love" rocks well enough, but sounds a bit like Dires Straits by numbers in its similarity to some of their other songs.
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Again, I agree. Jesus that "Les Boys"! What were they thinking??
"Brothers In Arms" was so ridiculously overplayed here that I find it hard to judge it fairly. "So Far Away" is a rahter dull-sounding song that was improved tremendously by the treatment they gave it live when I saw them on the tour. I never need to hear "Money For Nothing" again.
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I got BIA when it came out, so the overplay thing doesn't really impact on me. I listened to the album for what it was, not what the radio stations were telling me to listen to. Not saying you were, but in terms of overplay, not an issue with me. Superb cover too.
"Communique" is not as bad as my ranking might suggest, but sounds a bit like a poor cousion of the debut album. It is redeemed by the two closing tracks, which seem a bit like a two-part song.
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Disagree here. I love Communique. But it definitely is not as good as the debut.
"Love Over Gold" is one of the few albums that I give a perfect score. Only five songs, but every one a winner.
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I've never understood why Mark Knoffler wasn't more highly praised for his playing.

One of the music Youtube channels did a thing where they were playing the solo from Stairway to Heaven as other guitarists might have, and what they played, and the requests in the comments section didn't include Knoffler at all. To me, his style is unique, interesting and completely unmatched.
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I don't know what circles you move in, but I have always heard him praised for his playing. It's one of the defining characteristics of Dire Straits.
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I move in circles that do not discuss guitar players.
Then why are you asking the question??

Edit: Sorry the multiple quotes got a bit confused there and I'm too tired to go sorting them out.
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Something that's not discussed much here is Mark Knopfler's solo career. It is great, fairly extensive and contains more bangers than the Dire Straits discography.
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Something that's not discussed much here is Mark Knopfler's solo career. It is great, fairly extensive and contains more bangers than the Dire Straits discography.
I'll admit, I've never checked out his solo stuff, what album(s) would you recommend as a starting point Mr. Tore?
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I'll admit, I've never checked out his solo stuff, what album(s) would you recommend as a starting point Mr. Tore?
Great songs are peppered throughout his solo discography, so I don't think you can make a misstep. A popular starting point still is Sailing to Philadelphia from 2000 (much better than his solo debut which came before). The title track, a duet with James Taylor, is one of the most beautiful songs of his entire career.



I've long since tired of the album as a whole, including the popular What it is and Silvertown Blues, but Speedway at Nazareth is still a great song that might get an occasional play here.

Later on in his career, you'll find something great wherever you look. I'll post some songs that I personally find noteworthy, but I'll add that I generally prefer his folkier sounds and ballads rather than his bluesy stuff. So with that skewness in mind, I'll pick out some nuggets from some of the albums I appreciate (and I haven't heard them all).

His album Get Lucky has some great, great songs. The title song is fantastic, but also quite known/played, so here are a couple of other gems:






Kill to get Crimson is another great album that I like a lot. A couple of favorites from there:






From Shangri-La, Boom Like That (a song about businessman Ray Kroc who took control of McDonalds) is one of his biggest charting singles and a great song:




Privateering is a double album which is full of great songs like the pirate-y title track, Yon Two Crows, Redbud Tree, Go Love, Dream of the Drowned Submariner, Radio City Seranade. Presently, I think my softest spot is for the ballad Seattle, even if I doubt it charts highly on other people's favourites from this particular album.




Is this too much? I'm sorry.

Get Lucky, Kill to get Crimson and Privateering are all good second step albums after Sailing to Philadelphia. But I also haven't heard his latest two and there's a bunch of soundtrack albums that I haven't listened to. I have checked out his collabs with Chet Atkins and Emmylou Harris, but didn't find them as appealing as his solo studio albums.

Not to start a big argument, but I compare his solo career a bit to Morrissey in that it's got a lot of great stuff in it and more people should know about it.. Moz controversy aside
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Great songs are peppered throughout his solo discography, so I don't think you can make a misstep. A popular starting point still is Sailing to Philadelphia from 2000 (much better than his solo debut which came before). The title track, a duet with James Taylor, is one of the most beautiful songs of his entire career.

I like that. Hadn't heard it before.

I'd say either or both of the guys had been listening to Jimmy Webb's song The Highwayman, which is very similar in style.
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