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blastingas10 10-28-2012 09:20 PM

I think he's saying he prefers page even though he admits that iommi is more technical. Something along those lines

Rock N' Roll Clown 11-03-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by William Zanzinger (Post 1244711)
No idea what you mean-you prefer Page, though Iommi is a much better player?

Well, I don't see anything strange. For example, I prefer David Gilmour to let's say Albert King, although I know that King is way better.

Rjinn 11-30-2012 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1245148)
I think he's saying he prefers page even though he admits that iommi is more technical. Something along those lines

Yea, I thought he might of implied that. Iommi is better technically but not as touching as Page. Honesty I can't pick between the two. Their styles are really too different for me to make any sort of comparison.

blastingas10 11-30-2012 08:36 AM

I don't think their playing was worlds about. Both played a heavy bluesy style. Page was a proto heavy metal riffed, iommi was the defining heavy metal riffer. I hear some similarities in some of their work. Though Page was a little more versatile with his playing. They both had a jazzy and classical side. Well, iommi definitely did, page not as much. "Orchid" shows a little of his classical side. "Planet caravan" and "solitude" show off his jazzier side. I love the guitar playing In those songs.

Rjinn 11-30-2012 08:53 AM

Heavy blues is the only comparison I'd make really. Otherwise, overall, I don't hear much of a similarity. Definitely not compared to a lot of artists around that time period. I'd say Iommi was more inventive than Page. Page made general blues music heavy. I find Iommi metallic enough to make it a lot less obvious.

blastingas10 11-30-2012 09:07 AM

Ya, its a pretty general comparison. Iommi was more inventive. I think page was a little more versatile, though maybe even a little more technical.

Surell 11-30-2012 10:43 PM

Sabbath was more based in Jazz, I think. Page was a little more conservative in his riffing and soloing, not in a bad way, it just has a more plotted out feel to it, like every note has its purpose. With Iommi, it feels a little more wild .

Rjinn 12-01-2012 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1256098)
Sabbath was more based in Jazz, I think. Page was a little more conservative in his riffing and soloing, not in a bad way, it just has a more plotted out feel to it, like every note has its purpose. With Iommi, it feels a little more wild .

Yea, I think that's a huge differentiation which separated them as guitarists.

Surell 12-01-2012 12:42 AM

True. But let me change 'wild' to 'freewheeling' as it connotes not too much flashiness or mania, but more casualness, improvisation, etc.

And back to why i say true: Page seems like the classic idea of a virtuoso guitarist, an archetype of every great, meaningful riff/solo passed down from generation to generation. On the other hand, Iommi has an ambiance to him, a certain mood that his sound evokes, as well as a definite sound quality that can't be mistaken for any other guitarist (whereas Page's idiosyncrasy comes from how his creations move). It's more in his ability to set the mood with his instrument that he may be considered inventive

I SUPPOSE.

Big Ears 12-01-2012 06:47 AM

I voted for Tony Iommi, although he was influenced by Jimmy Page (certainly up to and including the Tyr album). Ritchie Blackmore, Tony Bourge and others were also influenced by Page, but I prefer them too. I just cannot get into Led Zeppelin, whereas Black Sabbath are one of my favourite bands.


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