Tony Iommi or Jimmy Page?

blastingas10 · 01-28-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Speed =/= skill, this is but a common fallacy.

I completely agree. I was just throwing that out there for people who love speed. Im not a believer that technical ability is what really matters. But, how do you measure skill?

slatesphanboi · 01-27-2012, 10:54 AM

Jimmy Page!

Not only do I think he is a better guitar player (sadly Iommi did lose part of his finger so the fact he is not as good is not his fault) but Page was also into paranormalism which gives him a cool 'image'

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n the early 1970s Page owned an occult bookshop and publishing house, "The Equinox Booksellers and Publishers" in Kensington High Street, London, eventually closing it as the increasing success of Led Zeppelin resulted in his having insufficient time to devote to it. The company published a facsimile of English occultist's Aleister Crowley's 1904 edition of The Goetia.[141] Page has maintained a strong interest in Crowley for many years. In 1978, he explained:

I feel Aleister Crowley is a misunderstood genius of the 20th century. Because his whole thing was liberation of the person, of the entity, and that restrictions would foul you up, lead to frustration which leads to violence, crime, mental breakdown, depending on what sort of makeup you have underneath. The further this age we're in now gets into technology and alienation, a lot of the points he's made seem to manifest themselves all down the line.[142]

Page was commissioned to write the soundtrack music for the film Lucifer Rising by another occultist and Crowley admirer, underground movie director Kenneth Anger.

Jimmy Page - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dr_Rez · 01-28-2012, 01:13 PM

If you can control your technical ability then it certainly counts.

Necromancer · 01-28-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

If you can control your technical ability then it certainly counts.

I agree with RezZ, especially when speed at lead guitar is concerned. Ive seen a lot of "wankers" that try to make it look impressive while not always playing full fretted notes.

Shaun Morgan for the band Seether has a unique style and approach on guitar that is percussion orientated. He just graduated from using 14 gauge strings to 15s. Far from being labeled as a technical approach to electric guitar, but a unique and popular style since the 90s with impressive (lower tuning) dynamics.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2012, 01:17 PM

The epic faces that you make can also be interpreted as skill.

versus

Dr_Rez · 01-28-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

The epic faces that you make can also be interpreted as skill.

versus

Sorry but the winner is clear to me. Robin Trower.

Necromancer · 01-28-2012, 01:39 PM

Angus Young would be a leading contender for that^ particular category.

blastingas10 · 01-28-2012, 05:41 PM

How can you measure a guitarists technical ability, if not by speed? Chord types? Scale types?

**Frownland** · 01-28-2012, 05:57 PM

That's a good question. I would think of it more like in terms of the complexity of the music, and if they can play it at a faster speed, that's great. But there is also skill in toning it down and holding back. Overall, I would say that range is essential to a guitarist's technical ability, because if you hone down one thing to a stump, you are left to dry in other areas of musicality, not really developing as a musician.

blastingas10 · 01-28-2012, 06:52 PM

Playing faster isn't always harder, and I've heard people say the opposite. I play some fingerstyle stuff that is much harder than shredding through a simple pentatonic scale, for example.

Can Jimmy page play faster than Duane allman? Maybe, Duane could play pretty fast when he wanted to Page is more of a wanker. But even if page can play faster than Duane, does that make him more technical? I don't think so. Duane had a more technical approach to playing guitar, with his use of modal jazz.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	That's a good question. I would think of it more like in terms of the complexity of the music, and if they can play it at a faster speed, that's great. But there is also skill in toning it down and holding back. Overall, I would say that range is essential to a guitarist's technical ability, because if you hone down one thing to a stump, you are left to dry in other areas of musicality, not really developing as a musician. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Playing faster isn't always harder, and I've heard people say the opposite. I play some fingerstyle stuff that is much harder than shredding through a simple pentatonic scale, for example. Can Jimmy page play faster than Duane allman? Maybe, Duane could play pretty fast when he wanted to Page is more of a wanker. But even if page can play faster than Duane, does that make him more technical? I don't think so. Duane had a more technical approach to playing guitar, with his use of modal jazz. Last edited by blastingas10; 01-28-2012 at 07:21 PM.

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	How can you measure a guitarists technical ability, if not by speed? Chord types? Scale types?