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cgw 11-10-2013 07:29 PM

Neil Young or Bruce Springsteen
 
Whom do you prefer?

butthead aka 216 11-10-2013 07:32 PM

always really liked neil and csny as well.

never much of a springsteen fan

i feel neil is timeless

Roger Podacter 11-10-2013 08:51 PM

While I enjoy The Boss, I named my dog after a Neil Young song.

Surell 11-10-2013 09:13 PM

DON'T EVEN WASTE MY TiME.

roger, what song

Taxman 11-11-2013 04:38 AM

They are different, but The Boss and his songs sucks more than Neil

Good Guy 11-11-2013 06:55 PM

I would go Neil

Mr. Charlie 11-11-2013 09:27 PM

I admire them both but if I was only allowed the work of one, I'd go Young.

Janszoon 11-11-2013 11:37 PM

Only one of them has both released a truly classic album recorded on a two-track and doesn't remind me of Adam Sandler when he sings. Hence my vote goes with the Boss.

Surell 11-11-2013 11:40 PM

The Boss didn't record a feedback collage inspired by Sonic Youth tho. He also doesn't have a ditch trilogy. Also he doesn't rock so hard he upstages Bob dylan.

Janszoon 11-11-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1383556)
The Boss didn't record a feedback collage inspired by Sonic Youth tho.

But he did record an acoustic track inspired by Suicide, which is a hell of a lot cooler.

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1383556)
He also doesn't have a ditch trilogy. Also he doesn't rock so hard he upstages Bob dylan.

Neither Young nor Springsteen nor Dylan are at their best when attempting to rock out so that doesn't matter to me.

Taxman 11-12-2013 09:06 AM

Ok, I must admit that while they are different artists, they have something in common. They both are good artists but they both are gruesomely overrated.

LBDR 11-17-2013 11:17 AM

Springsteen's masterpiece, Nebraska, blows Neil Young's greatest works out of the water. The emotions and brutality conveyed in the songs bring out a raw sense of ambiguity about life and are some of the most tear jerking songs ever produced by a mainstream rock artist. Neither would ever reach the heights Springsteen obtained in that one work.

On the other hand, Neil Young has had the better overall career quality wise. His highs have brought him to places, musically, Springsteen never even had in his sights let alone his albums. He's been far more inconsistent than the Boss (at least in my opinion) yet he's proven repeatedly that his abilities as a versatile musician are always in place and ready to roll.

Unknown Soldier 11-17-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LBDR (Post 1385344)
Springsteen's masterpiece, Nevada, blows Neil Young's greatest works out of the water. The emotions and brutality conveyed in the songs bring out a raw sense of ambiguity about life and are some of the most tear jerking songs ever produced by a mainstream rock artist. Neither would ever reach the heights Springsteen obtained in that one work.

I wonder if Bruce actually knows anything about that album.

Janszoon 11-17-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1385357)
I wonder if Bruce actually knows anything about that album.

:laughing:

Isbjørn 11-17-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LBDR (Post 1385344)
Springsteen's masterpiece, Nevada

May I like, not listen to your opinions on Springsteen?

LBDR 11-17-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1385372)
May I like, not listen to your opinions on Springsteen?

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1385357)
I wonder if Bruce actually knows anything about that album.

:bonkhead:

Sorry, it's been a long night. The post should be fine now. A small mistake in a post shouldn't be enough to not pay attention to an opinion anyways.

TheBig3 11-17-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LBDR (Post 1385389)
:bonkhead:

Sorry, it's been a long night. The post should be fine now. A small mistake in a post shouldn't be enough to not pay attention to an opinion anyways.

Normally, no. But they don't want to accept your opinion.

Neil Young's greatest achievement was letting us know what Nirvana would sound like if it were fronted by James Taylor. Thanks but no thanks. He was an idealist that sang about things that people wanted to believe.

Springsteen sings about topics people have to believe because they're living through them. He can take a line like "And you know that tilt-a-whirl down on the south beach drag, I got on it last night and my shirt got caught, and that Joey kept me spinning—I didn't think I'd ever get off" and make it sound like the greatest metaphor about the reality of the American Dream.

Neil Young's got some great songs. I'm sure he's a really nice person. There's a reason we call Springsteen the Boss.

Taxman 11-18-2013 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1385420)
Normally, no. But they don't want to accept your opinion.

Neil Young's greatest achievement was letting us know what Nirvana would sound like if it were fronted by James Taylor. Thanks but no thanks. He was an idealist that sang about things that people wanted to believe.

Springsteen sings about topics people have to believe because they're living through them. He can take a line like "And you know that tilt-a-whirl down on the south beach drag, I got on it last night and my shirt got caught, and that Joey kept me spinning—I didn't think I'd ever get off" and make it sound like the greatest metaphor about the reality of the American Dream.

Neil Young's got some great songs. I'm sure he's a really nice person. There's a reason we call Springsteen the Boss.

No. Springsteen sings what everybody likes to hear. Also his lyrics sucks. But the biggest difference between them is that Young can actually compose decent melodies, but Springsteen is not able to come up with creative musical ideas.

Taxman 11-18-2013 01:17 AM

Also Young has pioneered grunge and he has good and original voice. Plus I love Neil's guitar style

ClassicRockFreak 11-18-2013 07:16 AM

This is tough to decide, you have Hey Hey, My My, Keep on Rocking in The Free World and my personal favourite from the band Cinnamon Girl. Compared to Springsteen which has Born to Run, Born in the U.S.A, Atlantic City and some others. My decision is Springsteen. Neil Young has that whiny tone to all of his songs that sounds really bad except that one song Cinnamon Girl.

Taxman 11-18-2013 12:11 PM

Gotta disagree. What makes the biggest difference between them is the voice. Neil is great singer, Bruce just an average shouter

neardeathexperience 11-20-2013 07:22 PM

I don't remember Bruce being in Buffalo Springfield, or CSNY oh wait but Neil Young was in both of those groups along with his own band Crazy Horse. This is a bad comparrison due to the body of work that has been produced by one of the musicians.........

TheBig3 11-20-2013 09:26 PM

In this thread: Children don't know what they're talking about, make decision based on having heard 5 songs in their dad's truck.

Bruce Springsteen is in another stratosphere, and when you're old enough to have adult problems, call me.

Surell 11-20-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1383557)
But he did record an acoustic track inspired by Suicide, which is a hell of a lot cooler.

:/ ok, you got me.


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Neither Young nor Springsteen nor Dylan are at their best when attempting to rock out so that doesn't matter to me.
Ok you're daft again.

BTW: Adult problems aren't necessarily good art. Young has plenty of songs about what I'd consider "grown problems," but regardless I just think he's a great artist not only for producing quality work but for dabbling with different sounds as well. Grunge Neil Young is interesting, but definitely not the primary idea to discern from his entire career.

Puffnstuff 11-22-2013 07:15 AM

I actually like both of them about the same even though they are very different. I love music so I accept each of them for what they are.

Screen13 11-22-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1385357)
I wonder if Bruce actually knows anything about that album.

Trivia time:
Actually, out of anger that the follow up to the monster River album was something that was not commercial, Nebraska was referred to as Omaha by Walter Yetnikoff in front of Bruce's face (Steve Knopper, Appetite for Self-Destruction, p.9).

Paul Smeenus 11-22-2013 09:20 PM

Breil Youngsteen

Screen13 11-22-2013 09:46 PM

I voted for Neil - more interesting and someone who released a lot of seriously WTF moments that have a serious history that fans still talk about today. Plus, he knows how to create intensity with economy - one note of Young's says more than many guitarists who fiddle around going nowhere (sorry, Eddie Van Halen, love the technique, but...). The singing may not be to everyone's taste, but he uses it well. Plus, along with the great classics with Crazy Horse, a fine debut album, the "Ditch Trilogy", and what he's inspired through the years, there's also his songs for Buffalo Springfield ("Expecting to Fly", "Mr. Soul" my favorites), working with Devo, the infamous Human Highway film (yes, I actually like it!), the great comeback that was Freedom, "This Note's for You", "Wonderin" (and it's video!), Journey Through the Past (The film, not the soundtrack, though...), Deja Vu (I like C,S,N with Y except for a 1988 album I try to forget about), and so on.

I actually like a number of Springsteen's songs, especially those from the first up to and including Nebraska. Still, in my view, the 80's overproduction of Born in the USA seriously was the point where I lost interest for a long time - where the epic turned into stereotype.

One went down many roads, the other stayed in his hometown...you know why I chose.

Unknown Soldier 11-23-2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Screen13 (Post 1388101)
Trivia time:
Actually, out of anger that the follow up to the monster River album was something that was not commercial, Nebraska was referred to as Omaha by Walter Yetnikoff in front of Bruce's face (Steve Knopper, Appetite for Self-Destruction, p.9).

I can't think of one Bruce Springsteen album that I actually like and can't stand his singing either (which is rare as I wouldn't normally be put off an artist by his singing) Whereas on the other hand I can listen to almost anything by Neil Young and love it at the same time, even on his weakest albums I can still find something that I like.

TheBig3 11-28-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1388144)
I can't think of one Bruce Springsteen album that I actually like and can't stand his singing either (which is rare as I wouldn't normally be put off an artist by his singing) Whereas on the other hand I can listen to almost anything by Neil Young and love it at the same time, even on his weakest albums I can still find something that I like.


William_the_Bloody 11-28-2013 10:51 PM

If someone can throw up some Springsteen songs that match these I could possibly change my mind, otherwise in my opinion he's just a boring old crooner.

















I could go on and on Neil's a true acid rockin hippie.

Excelsior 11-29-2013 03:24 AM

Their songs are really different (Also different kind of music), but I prefer Mister Young :p:

TheBig3 12-01-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1390036)
If someone can throw up some Springsteen songs that match these I could possibly change my mind, otherwise in my opinion he's just a boring old crooner.

If you're looking for an acid using hippie, Springsteen ain't your man. But to say he's a crooner makes me think you've never heard his music. If the sax doesn't melt your miserable soul, you don't have one.


Bruce Springsteen- Radio Nowhere - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen - High Hopes - 2014 (Album Version) - YouTube


Atlantic City (Live In Dublin) - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen Livin' In The Future Magic (High Quality) - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen Dancing In The Dark - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen - Easy Money - YouTube

Trollheart 12-01-2013 02:07 PM

I only know Neil Young's "Harvest" (which bored me) and his hit singles, plus some vague memories of "Rust never sleeps" when I was 17 or so. Nevr been much into him. Springsteen on the other hand I got into with "Born in the USA" (I know I know!) then swung back through his catalogue till I found gems like this:






and of course this classic...

TheBig3 12-01-2013 02:25 PM

You're alright with me, Trollheart.

Surell 12-01-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1390779)
I only know Neil Young's "Harvest" (which bored me) and his hit singles, plus some vague memories of "Rust never sleeps" when I was 17 or so.

Well god almighty you're definitely in the wrong ballpark. I don't think a whole lot of people like Harvest, except for fans that were around when it came out (i.e. my grandparents), but it's essentially After the Gold Rush's overproduced little brother, only truly notable as anything else for being the only album to contain a #1 hit by him ("Heart of Gold") and a couple of really great folky tracks (aforementioned song, "Needle and the Damage Done," maybe another one i can't remember). It also did great because his Folk side is the most popular, and while it's great, it's not all there is and doesn't contain his best work.

You might want to give Rust Never Sleeps another try, it's got some great tracks and shows his Folk and Rock tendencies (the latter as Crazy Horse sloppy ditties), though I still need to give it a proper listen myself; it also represents a big turning point in his career, coming just before the 80s where he'd start to really experiment with noisy, metallic textures and genre hopping (including the infamous Trans), so it's cool to look at it in that way too. After the Gold Rush is among his best, especially considering his folk side, and includes ornate arrangements that aren't nearly as overbearing/melodramatic as Harvest; his overall songwriting skill is really on display without the possible aversion someone might feel to his later era noisy shit. Speaking of which, Weld has some really great performances of some of his best songs AND gives you an idea of how it feels to get obliterated at one of his Crazy Horse hoedowns. Tonight's the Night is probably one of his best full on Rock records (with bluesy/country sounds thrown in as well) from his peak period as well, it took me awhile to get into, but it's one of his most cohesive and interesting works in his career, a really unique one in his catalog for how bleak his outlook is amongst records that usually expound on hope and love even in the darkest patches.

Anyway, i could go on and on, but these are probably some of the best examples of his diversity and talent. Other greats include:

Zuma (probably my favorite, comes just after his "ditch trilogy" which included Tonight's the Night)
On the Beach (the technically second ditch trilogy record, very sporadic and contemplative)
Everybody Knows this is Nowhere (really great folky/country rock with some great solos and catchy tunes)
Psychedelic Pill (you saw me write on this I believe, I think it's a pretty concise statement on the record)

I want five by I think I spent all my favorites. :( hopefully this sheds a little light though.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 12-02-2013 12:13 AM

I like Springsteen somewhat, though he's not in Young's league IMO.

Generally I like Springsteen's early stuff better.

My 2 favorite Springsteen songs. Rosalita absolutely rocks!



Sweet song, from the same album:



Hard to compare the artists, but generally I think Young is better for his mellower stuff. This first song is a tearjerker.



Until The Beatles Girl overtook it sometime in the 80's, this was my favorite song.



That said, there's really only 3 Young albums I ever really paid much attention to - Everybody Knows This is Nowhere, After the Gold Rush and Harvest. Rust Never Sleeps was OK, but I never really got into more than a couple songs on the album.

William_the_Bloody 12-02-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1390773)
If you're looking for an acid using hippie, Springsteen ain't your man. But to say he's a crooner makes me think you've never heard his music. If the sax doesn't melt your miserable soul, you don't have one.


Bruce Springsteen- Radio Nowhere - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen - High Hopes - 2014 (Album Version) - YouTube


Atlantic City (Live In Dublin) - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen Livin' In The Future Magic (High Quality) - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen Dancing In The Dark - YouTube


Bruce Springsteen - Easy Money - YouTube

Well I've been known not to have one...a soul that is. :)

Sorry he's just too contemporary for me...to each his own I suppose.

Surell 12-05-2013 10:45 AM

Too contemporary? How do you mean? I'm not asking out of disagreement, it's just an interesting way to put it to me.

TheBig3 12-05-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1391260)
Well I've been known not to have one...a soul that is. :)

Sorry he's just too contemporary for me...to each his own I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1392091)
Too contemporary? How do you mean? I'm not asking out of disagreement, it's just an interesting way to put it to me.

I'm asking out of the disagreement with yourself. Is he too contemporary, or is he a crooner?

What?!?!?!?


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