The Official Led Zeppelin Thread

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by The Unfan

Yet they did none of them particularly well and blatantly stole most of their material.

yes, cause no one ever stole anything from anyone, ever.

[The Unfan]

This is going to be a long thread.

[someonecompletelyrandom]

Originally Posted by The Unfan

This is going to be a long thread.

Close it. Now. I'm 96 percent positive theres another one.

[The Unfan]

I'm also 100% positive it had the Led Zep theft argument in it too.

[mr dave]

Originally Posted by Conan

Wow the chorus to a song sounds simular to the chorus of another song boo hoo. They played covers like any other blues band.

issue being most other blues bands would give credit to the original artists prior to litigation.

[someonecompletelyrandom]

Originally Posted by mr dave

issue being most other blues bands would give credit to the original artists prior to litigation.

Quote from Jimmy Page:

"The thing is they were traditional lyrics and they went back far before a lot of people that one related them to. The riffs we did were totally different, also, from the ones that had come before, apart from something like "You Shook Me" and "I Can't Quit You," which were attributed to Willie Dixon. The thing with "Bring It On Home," Christ, there's only a tiny bit taken from Sonny Boy Williamson's version and we threw that in as a tribute to him. People say, "Oh, 'Bring It On Home' is stolen." Well, there's only a little bit in the song that relates to anything that had gone before it, just the end"

[The Unfan]

You can't trust musicians.

[Classof75]

Originally Posted by The Unfan

Yet they did none of them particularly well and blatantly stole most of their material.

I think they played most of the music they did well. What is not "particularly well"? Not authentic enough? You think they were "jack of all trades, master of none"? Something like that? I have no problem with the stuff they "blatantly stole" because the blues stuff they did was passed on to them just like it was learned, borrowed (or stolen) by the black folks who were not really sure where it came from to begin with. You don't seem to know what you are talking about. If you don't like Zeppelin, fine, but I don't think you know where they are coming from.

[mr dave]

Originally Posted by Conan

Quote from Jimmy Page:

"The thing is they were traditional lyrics and they went back far before a lot of people that one related them to. The riffs we did were totally different, also, from the ones that had come before, apart from something like "You Shook Me" and "I Can't Quit You," which were attributed to Willie Dixon. The thing with "Bring It On Home," Christ, there's only a tiny bit taken from Sonny Boy Williamson's version and we threw that in as a tribute to him. People say, "Oh, 'Bring It On Home' is stolen." Well, there's only a little bit in the song that relates to anything that had gone before it, just the end"

yes some of it was called 'traditional', although a lot of that is due to contentious claims by various people claiming to be the original authors. 'hey joe' and 'house of the rising sun' are other clear examples of 'traditional' songs with claims of ownership.

but i was thinking more in terms of them having to attach the name 'killing floor' to 'the lemon song' and adding credit to Memphis Minnie for 'when the levee breaks'. plus how can one call an uncredited addition to a song a 'tribute' to the original artist? if you don't name drop the artist or list them in the credits how are people who only know the details of the music from the liner notes of the album supposed to find out?

[someonecompletelyrandom]

I thinked they assumed people would take it as a reference. It's my understanding that the UK didn't really have that Black/White culture that we have here. So it's quite possible that they would do something like that without realizing white artists had been stealing from blacks.