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Old 02-11-2006, 11:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i want to start songwriting, but i find myself in a bit of a hole, if you will.

which should i write first?

lyrics music or melody?
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Old 02-11-2006, 12:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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well...i suggest writing the lyrics before you write the music.

to write lyrics, just sit down with a pen and paper and write whatever comes to mind.
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Old 02-11-2006, 12:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks!

haha, now i can finally start (that was bogging me down for a while)
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Old 02-11-2006, 08:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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but make sure you edit and stuff...:]
good luck.
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Lots of famous song writers get asked this question, though I don't usually remember their answers. My instinct is that it's easier to fit words to a tune than it is to fit a tune to words, so I'd say start with the music.
Two pertinent comments supporting this approach that I more-or-less recall:-
Brian Eno: The problem with putting words to a piece of music is that people imagine that's what the song is about.
Jon Anderson: I chose words according to their sound as much as their meaning.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I used to do lyrics first but now I typically do the music first. But it's what ever feels best.
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It is a dumb question. Both work. If you're stuck there then I think you might have bigger problems. It took 12 years to break the truth to you, OP.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It is a dumb question. Both work. If you're stuck there then I think you might have bigger problems. It took 12 years to break the truth to you, OP.
Didn't even realize, lol.
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^ Well this old thread prompted me to click on your "Art Is Dead" link Lucem, so I've just heard your music for the first time. I was pretty surprised by the graphics of your webpage, and even more by your songs. I liked your insistence on aggressively offensive lyrics; it's quite unusual I think. Unfortunately I don't like the structure or rhyme pattern of rap, so I enjoyed more all the musical bits around your singing I'm afraid. But as rap goes, your lyrics are interesting; I liked the couplet ending in "scum town", and I really liked the line, "Don't drink the taaap water" and what you did with it !
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Unless it’s hip hop make the lyrics fit the song not vice versa.
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