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Old 04-22-2006, 03:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Um, guys! The post wasn't meant to inspire bickering.
The you shouldn't have joined MB. Heh.
Are you implying that bickering is part and parsel with a song writing forum? Because I hate to inform you, but it's about song writing.

At least it should be.

I know you're young, but still, I think you're old enough to know that.

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Is anybody here serious about writing? Does anybody even have a clear idea about why they write the way they do? The point of devoting so much time and energy towards it?

...because I'm left here asking myself, Did they not understand what this thread was about? Do they really have no idea about their aims as songwriters, and how their writing style relates to their aims?

Because this thread had NOTHING to do with whether one style is better than another. Even the most banal, cliche pop-lyrics have a purpose.

Seriously...I keep waiting for something...anything to be posted which relates to the thread, but it's like nobody even read the question properly. *sigh*
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I suppose I write the way I do because that is the way I work. I don't think about deep things and the like so it is easier for me to avoid writing in a deep and vague manner. I do it sometimes when I am looking for the challenge, but usually I stick to simple writing because it is what I am best at. Maybe someday those simple lyrics will evolve into more thought provoking ones but at the moment I am comfortable writing the way I do.
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Old 04-22-2006, 08:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Are you implying that bickering is part and parsel with a song writing forum? Because I hate to inform you, but it's about song writing.

At least it should be.

I know you're young, but still, I think you're old enough to know that.

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People always bicker in the songwriting forum [at least in my threads haha], not to mention the other forums, as well.
Tutut do not call me young. *shakes pointer finger at you*
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Old 04-22-2006, 02:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i didn't mean to argue, in my first post i was simply forming my opinion and discussing what i thought was the best way to write but i was unjustly antagonised for having my own opinions!
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hobojesus: Yeah, I get you. Also, I think that maybe it's more of a challenge avoiding that perceived pressure to come up with grand 'life and death' pearls of wisdom in every song and stick to simple themes.

In high school we studied this book of poetry by Bruce Dawe called 'sometimes gladness'. My english teacher was explaining that it's brilliance lay in how Dawe embraced the mundane and everyday. At the time I was reasonably new to lyric writing and kept wanting to find something to write about that would be totally earth shattering and deep. But studying that book really made me rethink that approach. I think maybe view of how life should be has become very romantisized and removed from reality, like it should unfold like an epic saga, that we should all achieve greatness and/or massive fame. But reality is scouring pots, doodling idly in margins, jumping from foot to foot keeping warm at the bus stop....it's just ordinary things...and we shouldn't be so dismissive of them.

And sorry for sounding all narky myself moley. Yeah, I understand. having your opinions antagonized is crapola. You're totally right about the whole ac/dc thing. I mean, they're just the right type of lyrics for their music. Maybe it's easy to be a bit of a lyric snob and dismiss certain songs because their words ain't literature; but expecting every song to be so cerebral, is pretty daft. Plus, what else are we gonna air guitar to? I mean, rock...rocks! \m/

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Old 04-23-2006, 07:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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My mistake.
Sorry everybody else, but I quite like the bickering.

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adj.

1.
a. Of or relating to a category of poetry that expresses subjective thoughts and feelings, often in a songlike style or form.
b.Relating to or constituting a poem in this category, such as a sonnet or an ode.
c. Of or relating to a writer of poems in this category.

2. Lyrical.

3. Music.
a. Having a singing voice of light volume and modest range.
b. Of, relating to, or being musical drama, especially opera: the lyric stage.
c. Having a pleasing succession of sounds; melodious.
d. Of or relating to the lyre or harp.
e. Appropriate for accompaniment by the lyre.

n.
1. A lyric poem.
2. Music. The words of a song. Often used in the plural.
Look at it, they split up the 'lyric poem' and 'music' definitions of the nouns. Why could that be? Maybe because they are different?

The part which you quoted relates to lyric as an ADJECTIVE. Moley mentioned 'poems' and 'lyrics' which in that context were undoubtably the noun forms and you argued back with the definition of the word as an adjective.

Get your act together!
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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And sorry for sounding all narky myself moley. Yeah, I understand. having your opinions antagonized is crapola. You're totally right about the whole ac/dc thing. I mean, they're just the right type of lyrics for their music. Maybe it's easy to be a bit of a lyric snob and dismiss certain songs because their words ain't literature; but expecting every song to be so cerebral, is pretty daft. Plus, what else are we gonna air guitar to? I mean, rock...rocks! \m/



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Sorry everybody else, but I quite like the bickering.

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Look at it, they split up the 'lyric poem' and 'music' definitions of the nouns. Why could that be? Maybe because they are different?

The part which you quoted relates to lyric as an ADJECTIVE. Moley mentioned 'poems' and 'lyrics' which in that context were undoubtably the noun forms and you argued back with the definition of the word as an adjective.

Get your act together!

your both good people

and no need to apologise skiesofganymede, i wasn't pissed off or anything, and your completely right,
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Why all the nit picking over what a dictionary says , whatever happened to poetic licence
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Why all the nit picking over what a dictionary says , whatever happened to poetic licence
some dude pulled out some dictionary definitions, i think he was trying to argue that lyrics and poetry were essentially the same thing.
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Yeah, sorry Urban. It was just a passing 'Briana Banks moment'...I just had to get anal...
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