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Dark Circle 02-15-2007 07:54 PM

Unknown (Too Late)
 
Do you remember my name
When I am silent?
Do you sometimes wake up at night
And wonder why?

How many reasons is there?
How many reasons to stop?
Not many to go on
Take chance and don't look back!
There is no reason to stay,
Why don't you take me with you
And leave it all behind?
Just let it stay unknown.

Do you remember the road
Leading you somewhere?
Do you sometimes try to move on
Where you left off?

How many reasons is there?
How many reasons to stop?
Not many to go on
Take chance and don't look back!
There is no reason to stay,
Why don't you take me with you
And leave it all behind?
Just let it stay unknown.

What it means to you
To lead you somewhere unknown?
If you chose to stay
You'll find your pain

How many reasons is there?
How many reasons to stop?
Not many to go on
Take chance and don't look back!
There is no reason to stay,
Why don't you take me with you
And leave it all behind?
Just let it stay unknown.

You won't remember my name
You won't remember at all
But if you chose to go
There might be chance for you
But if you chose to wake up
and don't keep dreaming your dream
We will be same as all
Again you'll be too late

Dark Circle 02-15-2007 07:55 PM

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sleepy jack 02-15-2007 10:31 PM

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Do you remember my name
When I am silent?
Do you sometimes wake up at night
And wonder why?
I know i've heard that second question in a song before, or something very similar to it. The first isn't that good either.

Quote:

How many reasons is there?
How many reasons to stop?
Not many to go on
Take chance and don't look back!
There is no reason to stay,
Why don't you take me with you
And leave it all behind?
Just let it stay unknown.
These sound like bad hawthorne heights lyrics, and they're already pretty bad. The vocabulary just isn't interesting, and the subject is terrible.

Quote:

Do you remember the road
Leading you somewhere?
Do you sometimes try to move on
Where you left off?
These questions are just so urgh, because they're so overdone.

Quote:

What it means to you
To lead you somewhere unknown?
If you chose to stay
You'll find your pain
Great, another teen saying life is all pain!

Quote:

You won't remember my name
You won't remember at all
But if you chose to go
There might be chance for you
But if you chose to wake up
and don't keep dreaming your dream
We will be same as all
Again you'll be too late
And i'm glad its over, this was just bad. Songs about suicide typically aren't that great, I mean you have some like Adam's Song that while not fantastic lyrics at least aren't cliche about it. Encouraging it, well I can't think of anyway to make that good. This is pretty awful, and its not just the subject the vocabulary and wording is bad to read.

I suggest you try and break out of the depressed teen box, and read some more books to expand your vocabulary as well as listen to Kayo Dot and Circle Takes The Square, or at least read the lyric or some poetry, Oscar Wilde or Robert Frost. Plus keep writing, just don't write about the same tired subjects that are all over the radio.

either/or 02-16-2007 02:21 AM

i agree with crowquill, this sucked. It's just really boring and cliche. Don't pain the world with this.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 02:43 AM

You got it all wrong! The song is not suicidal, it's quite positive, actually. I tried to talk about taking the last chance but from a different angle. I will explain:

Do you remember my name
When I am silent?


This part is about people these days in general. Real friendships do not exist and all our life we spend with "temporary friends", who come and go every now and then.

Do you sometimes wake up at night
And wonder why?


This part is about apreciation of ones work. We try so hard just to be unapreciated and missunderstood.

How many reasons is there?
How many reasons to stop?
Not many to go on
Take chance and don't look back!
There is no reason to stay,
Why don't you take me with you
And leave it all behind?
Just let it stay unknown.


Now, this is the point of the song. People might think that it is about suicide, but if you look at it carefully you'll realise that it's not. It is about taking chance and forgetting all the bad things we leave behind, but without changing who we really are because not all the things we leave behind are bad. That is what "why don't you take me with you" part says. We might think that there is no point in taking chances but that is when we are wrong. I tried to say that we must go on no matter how little reasons we have.

Do you remember the road
Leading you somewhere?
Do you sometimes try to move on
Where you left off?


It's not always easy to keep moving and we often give up. This part of the song is a reminder to keep doing what we have forgotten. Every road leads somewhere and it is always better to be mobile.

What it means to you
To lead you somewhere unknown?
If you chose to stay
You'll find your pain


There is always a period when we question how much we want to succeed. As I said before moving is always better than staying still and if you lived in Serbia you would understand the "You'll find your pain" part.

You won't remember my name
You won't remember at all
But if you chose to go
There might be chance for you
But if you chose to wake up
and don't keep dreaming your dream
We will be same as all
Again you'll be too late

This part is the sad truth about succeeding. Trying to forget our false friendships we isolate ourselves even from our real friends and in time we forget them. Our friends are aware of that but we know that they are real friensbecause they encourage us to move on anyway. They know what awaits if we fail and they make us take our chance before we're too late.

As for the vocabulary, I read a lot and I write pretty good. Only I had to fit the lyrics into the melody and it sounds pretty much better when you hear it

Alo 02-16-2007 05:40 AM

^ Yeah, it may sound better, but the lyrics are nothing special. It's cliche, and all been said (sung) before.

Loser 02-16-2007 02:07 PM

There are ways to make a certain topic less cliche I do it and it seems to be working out, all you need to do is put it in ways no one has ever heard it before or think of the complete opposite of what something does. We have thousands of words which means when writing you can play with the words and play with the way you put it. That's the glory of language you can manipulate any word or words to say what you want them to say.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 04:48 PM

You try to fit it in a song! It is not that easy because I make the melody first and then I write the lyrics.

Loser 02-16-2007 05:09 PM

Try to do the reverse because if you do the melody first your setting yourself up for a cliche song. Try writing the lyrics first go to the band give them what you got and see what happens. Try new stuff maybe it'll work.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 05:49 PM

You don't understand! I am the band, I do everyting but singing (that is the job of the girl behind me). It is much easier to write lyrics for a melody than to make a melody for lyrics

Loser 02-16-2007 05:53 PM

Dude i'm in a band to, and since you do everything but the singing write the lyrics with the melody in the back of your mind and try to fit the lyrics with whatever melody you feel. I'm the singer/songwriter as well and tha's what I do.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 06:00 PM

Unfortunately, we are the kind of band whose ultimate goal is to sell the music for the masses. When I want to make a good song I write poetry and when I want to write a good story I write Epic Fantasy. I just try to make good music and catchy melodies. Lyrics need to have a meaning but are secondary to our music. I think that song alone should tell a story for itself.

Loser 02-16-2007 06:04 PM

Figures another band trying to be popular what happened to good old garage and jam bands who just play shows and write meaningful lyrics to get discovered. Instead we have people writing about fantasy and no meaning to it, that my friend will not sell in the united states but maybe in europe it'll sell I dunno.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 06:12 PM

Believe it or not, USA is more interested in us than Europe. I thought that it will be the other way round because USA is the kingdom of Hip Hop. The music I make sounds like Evanescence with much more gothic elements. Never write songs without meaning, I only try harder with some songs than I do wit the others. I wrote this song in 15 minutes. In my head I had the story, I just made it into a song that now noboty understands!

Loser 02-16-2007 06:18 PM

The USA isn't the land of hip hop believe me dude.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 06:25 PM

Then why are there so many hip hop stars in USA? No other country makes that many of them!
I originaly started making music for my needs only. I made instrumentals that were supposed to have all I like to hear in a song combined in one place. Then I met my singer an started writing lyrics. Many people reacted positively to it so I kept doing it.

Loser 02-16-2007 06:36 PM

Well why isn't the singer doing the songwriting? all she's doing is singing and your brakeing your back to do everything else now that's not a band. As for hip hop I'm from the USA and I despise hip hop with a passion and the USA doesn't produce the most hip hop artists latin america does, I hear about it in school. But as for me hip hop is a disgrace.

swim 02-16-2007 06:38 PM

I really hope you're talking about the watered down radio crap because there's a lot rap that butt rapes what you like.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 06:42 PM

She would be a good songwriter in Serbian, but in English? I don't think so. My lyrics will have to do.
I have heard about loads of hip hop and R'nB artists from USA, but never about those from latin america.

Loser 02-16-2007 07:31 PM

Yeah the ones in the USA are more popular but here the ones from latin america are becomming popular and it's a bit sad.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 07:40 PM

Sad indeed... I really can't understand hip hop...

Loser 02-16-2007 07:42 PM

Seriously what's the point of it, all it is are rhyming that's all I can easily do that right now. :)

sleepy jack 02-16-2007 07:45 PM

Yeah, Sage Francis writes better lyrics then both of you combined, so shut up.

Loser 02-16-2007 07:49 PM

Ethan i'm going to have no balls left if you keep hitting below the belt :(
You don't think my lyrics are good....That hurts :(

swim 02-16-2007 07:50 PM

Sage Francis writes better than anyone on this damn forum. Grats on writing off a whole genre that you really don't know anything about.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 07:51 PM

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
All they are talking about is sex, sex, sex and sex and some more sex!

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 07:52 PM

Well, try being me!

sleepy jack 02-16-2007 07:53 PM

Yes, this is my favorite song by a hip hop artist. Its all about sex.



I'd give a .21 gunshot salute,
with the toy rifle that you bought me but it won't shoot.
And all is well because there's been one too many shots,
the sterile robots want to talk to me about detox.
Stop the presses, there's been an update delivered via 1:30 a.m. phone call,
when an only half informative source talks discreetly.
Meet me, at the family room, on the side of the intensive care unit, immediately.
I'll carry a tune. The sirens so loud I can't hear my music.
Keep free, of negative thoughts, everything will be fine,
we all assume that it would go back to the way things were.
That it would go back to normal soon.
Saw the moon, in a way that I've never seen it before.
When I looked up that night, into the sky, wondering why, looking for answers.
Guess I didn't ask right, I'm guessin' most of y'all out there know exactly what that's like...what that's like...now tell me what's that like.
It's like a whirlwind of emotions that occurs when moms and dads fight.
It's like when a girl grins, an emotion of hers that holds your arm and grabs tight.
Hurl him into the ocean, one of them cold sweat, heat flash types,
when extreme fluxuations in temperature changes have been known to
Crack Pipes...Crack Pipes. Crack Pipes.
Meet me, half way a goal, the extra length, just to help you're strength.
Meet me at the AA meeting, needing to take more than 12 steps.
Bring me to you're hiding place, so I can face you're vice grip and chisel every single monkey off you're back with this ice pick.
Come meet up with me on the sidelines when the game is over, just to say "Hello".
Then afterwards, backstage, to let me know you enjoyed the show.
And go to Grandma's house for Sunday dinner, sit at the head of the table,
take away the fatal flaw you made the day before. I see you bleed.
Meet me, on Christmas Eve, we can fight or make up before you leave.
Make visits with the rest of those who rest in pieces of my dreams.
Meet me, at the fork in the road where lost souls get indecisive.
Meet me at the crossroads so I can have someone to walk into the light with.

swim 02-16-2007 07:53 PM

Not really. Maybe should turn off the radio and listen to some of the stuff that actually makes up the majority of the genre.

tdoc210 02-16-2007 07:59 PM

this song title is a rip from my dying bride lyrics

Kevorkian Logic 02-16-2007 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Circle (Post 337137)
Believe it or not, USA is more interested in us than Europe. I thought that it will be the other way round because USA is the kingdom of Hip Hop. The music I make sounds like Evanescence with much more gothic elements. Never write songs without meaning, I only try harder with some songs than I do wit the others. I wrote this song in 15 minutes. In my head I had the story, I just made it into a song that now noboty understands!

dude, it's fine. If your writing to sell to the masses, your lyrics should work. Word to the wise though, bands that get to recognized as significant to the musical community tend to be unique and artistic.

Dark Circle 02-16-2007 08:06 PM

:banghead:
:bringit::jailed::bringit:

either/or 02-16-2007 08:33 PM

dats true dont be a sellout!

A_Perfect_Sonnet 02-16-2007 09:50 PM

How many reasons is there?!

THERE IS SO MANY REASONS!

Dude, if you are going to write crappy lyrics, at least get your grammar correct. It's "are", not is.

And music (especially hip-hop) extends MUCH further than what you see on MTV. Christ kids are stupid.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-17-2007 05:23 AM

This is exactly whats wrong with music at the moment.

Too many bands happy to sound mediocre using cliched lyrics with boring riffs. The fact that you`re not even trying to do anything remotely different saddens me.

Dark Circle 02-17-2007 05:53 AM

I know grammar very well and I am aware that it is HOW MANY REASONS ARE THERE, but the song just doesn't sound the same if I change that in lyrics. And if a bunch of other musicians, worse than I am, can change grammar rules just to make their song sound better, why can't I!?

Dark Circle 02-17-2007 06:04 AM

You can't say that we sound mediocre when you haven't even heard our song!

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-17-2007 06:26 AM

I don`t need to, this told me everything I need to know..

Quote:

Unfortunately, we are the kind of band whose ultimate goal is to sell the music for the masses

Kevorkian Logic 02-17-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Circle (Post 337267)
You can't say that we sound mediocre when you haven't even heard our song!

This is a fairly pretentious music community. Everyone judges harshly.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-17-2007 10:29 AM

Pretention and judging harshly has got nothing to do with it I only have so much time to listen to so much music.

He said himself he`s not really making that much of an effort on it. Now why would I want to listen to someone making some half assed attempt at doing nothing more than some Evanescence tribute knock off he`s knocked up in 10 minutes.If he is not making the effort why should I.


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