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Old 07-29-2015, 08:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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No one is crippled. Anyone can learn how to play. That's what I'm saying. I have faith in those who wish to learn. When I see someone who is eager to learn, I try to guide them along, with the best of my abilities, skills, experience and knowledge, as I would've wanted when I was still learning. When I see someone that can play really well, I go to them and say, "You play really well, can I show you what I can do?". And hopefully I'll gain some instruction from them. I've never failed to gain something positive from doing that. How do you think I feel when someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, you play really well, can I show you what I can do?".....
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It's a shame that reading comprehension is seemingly deteriorating in Western society.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If I could have a nickel for every time I heard that I'd have ten cents.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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No one is crippled. Anyone can learn how to play. That's what I'm saying. I have faith in those who wish to learn. When I see someone who is eager to learn, I try to guide them along, with the best of my abilities, skills, experience and knowledge, as I would've wanted when I was still learning. When I see someone that can play really well, I go to them and say, "You play really well, can I show you what I can do?". And hopefully I'll gain some instruction from them. I've never failed to gain something positive from doing that. How do you think I feel when someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, you play really well, can I show you what I can do?".....
I don't know, how do you feel?

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Old 07-29-2015, 10:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
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When it comes to those who post at a music-based board and are unwilling to nurture and guide along those who want to seek out musical accomplishment, I feel like this:

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Old 07-29-2015, 10:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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That's not the premise of the question I asked, now is it.

Look...

You may have perceived that I was doing the OP a disservice, but I can assure you my intentions were of a very nurturing nature. I am in no way, nor have I ever in any way been "unwilling to nurture and guide along those who want to seek out musical accomplishment". I teach guitar. I have for many, many years. I've been a musician for over 30. I know when a student is just being lazy, and I know when a student has that certain passion for music. The OP clearly has put obstacles before themselves that are crippling their apprehension and growth of their ability to create music on their own. I was merely pointing out that they can simply stop doing those things that hinder their growth. Your inability to understand that, and then attack me on your errant assumption is not putting you in a favorable light by me, or any of the other members here that can clearly see you are quite wrong. Please, abstain from the grand standing.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I never attacked you. I was merely stating my points. And I've been playing guitar and piano since I was fifteen. I taught myself how to play classical. Though I've never actually taught a class, I've played much outside the class room. I know that there are those who have potential and those who are simply enamored by the scene of music itself, which is what makes them want to "learn". Regardless of that, should anyone be chastised for loving music and wanting to learn it? Because that's what I gather from you. That's not the way to teach. I used to know a girl who was Pilipino. And she told me her parents hired a professional piano teacher to teach her classical piano. At the tender age of three, her teacher used to hold a ruler over her hand as she played, and if she missed a note or made any kind of mistake, her teacher would slap her on the hand with that rule-stick. The way you talk to people regarding "teaching" just simply comes off to me the same way. There are better ways to nurture and guide people along in regards to teaching anything, that includes music.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I never attacked you.
You sure called me out on what your perception of what my posts meant to you. That's an attack on me.

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I've never actually taught a class
So, what ground do you have to stand on as far as teaching methods? None.

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should anyone be chastised for loving music and wanting to learn it?
How the hell did I chastise anyone?

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Because that's what I gather from you.
Your perception.

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I used to know a girl who was Pilipino. And she told me her parents hired a professional piano teacher to teach her classical piano. At the tender age of three, her teacher used to hold a ruler over her hand as she played, and if she missed a note or made any kind of mistake, her teacher would slap her on the hand with that rule-stick.
Poor girl. I certainly wouldn't teach anyone like that.

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The way you talk to people regarding "teaching" just simply comes off to me the same way. There are better ways to nurture and guide people along in regards to teaching anything, that includes music.
Again, your perception.

Here's a scenario that might help you understand what I was trying to do:

Someone keeps getting headaches because they keep bashing themselves over the head with a hammer. I tell that person to stop bashing themselves over the head with a hammer, and they stop getting headaches. Does that make any sense to you?
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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To be perfectly honest with you, you're the only one bashing your head....

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This right here sounds like a threat and an attempt to gather others against me because you don't like what I've posted. I don't know what others on this board feel. And you are no one to answer for them. No individual should ever be allowed to answer for a group of people. Otherwise, that simply makes this an ant colony, where everyone thinks off of one brain. If there is anything I've done that the members of your board feel is wrong then please let me know. You don't have to have me here. I'm not afraid of expulsion.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yup. We're a big ol colony of ants. I am your ant overlord.
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