NBA thread

[butthead aka 216]

Moss ur right.... as a gambler I will 100% confirm refs rig scores and keep games close


Chalmers is a perfect fit for miami. Beasley has been nice too. Bitdman and oden too.

I dunno if wiggins will even be the first player taken from his own team. This draft class is gross. Dante exum just declared. Hes a tall australian pg who will be top 10

[Soulflower]

I am sorry I HAVE to say this.... For all those who say Lebron is not arrogant I just don't see how you can say that lol

The man made fun of another player's injury

And it was arrogant the way he left Cleveland without telling the owner. Don't you think he could have been more respectful being they helped him assimilate into the NBA and when he first started out?

He is very arrogant in his press conferences and when he loses. He is a very sore loser and does not know how to lose gracefully.

He disrespected the middle class the first year he played with his so called "dream team" and loss to Dallas.

He also made some disrespectful remarks toward MJ and I love MJ.

He is too cocky and his head is to swollen for me.

He is not likable. Most people I have talked too do not like him as a personality. He is not as likable as MJ.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I would still consider Jordan the best to ever grace a court. I have had a multitude of debates with friends before regarding the passing of the torch to Kobe/Lebron. Nobody in my eyes was as calculated and cerebral when it came to scoring. I've never seen a more competitive person in any sport i've watched. He is the best defensive guard to ever play the game also. If his team needed a rebound he was snagging 10 a game, if they needed him to facilitate and assist he would draw the double team and make easy looks for people. But when they needed him to score he was the best ever. His team being a bunch of fill players and Scottie Pippen leads a lot more credence to how gifted he truly was.

That all being said if Lebron matches his rings and continues to elevate his game there is some merit to the comparison. Head to head I believe Lebron would give him problems in the post, but MJ would break his ankles in the open court.

Yea I agree.

I personally don't think there will ever be another MJ. MJ was much more than just a great ball player. He even changed the face of the game and turned it into a business with the Nike and brands. He is also very very very likable and was far more handsome than Lebron not that looks means anything but just saying.

I like to think that certain levels of greatness unfortunately will never be reachable. Once the bar is set you can not break it or repeat it ya know? Certain people are just that special and unique and MJ was definitely one of them on AND off the court.

[butthead aka 216]

Lol mj is a notorious dikchead

U can see his hall of fame speech for an example

[debaserr]

If MJ played in this era people would not have such a fuzzy picture of him.

You have to be arrogant to be a top level player. Some are better at hiding it than others.

[Soulflower]

MJ was not an angel either but that still does not change the fact that he was likable.

He trashed talked (but that is apart of the sport)

He even got in fights

but


Did he make fun of other ball players injuries?

Did he blame others for his losses?

Did he insult the middle class?

Did he leave a team without telling the owner just for a championship?

Things like that are just beyond being a "little arrogant".

Even other ball players have called Lebron out on that. Dirk said he was ignorant for making fun of his injury.

He does not have good sportsmanship

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by eric generic

If MJ played in this era people would not have such a fuzzy picture of him.

You have to be arrogant to be a top level player. Some are better at hiding it than others.

I tell you one thing, MJ would not have went to another team just for a championship. He would have built a team around him like he did with the Bulls and that I greatly respect. He was not just thinking about himself.

[debaserr]

Or maybe he saw going to another team as a failure.

I could care less about whether a player offends people.

What matters is how hard they ball. The rest is just hurt feelings.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by eric generic

Or maybe he saw going to another team as a failure.

I could care less about whether a player offends people.

What matters is how hard they ball. The rest is just hurt feelings.

But you made a argument that MJ would act differently in today's league.

He does not have the mindset of these ball players of today.

MJ did not have to go to another team to win a championship.

[debaserr]

I made the argument that he would be perceived differently. What with all the increased media coverage / camera phones / etc.

There are still players with loyalty, just not LBJ. He has been really cloak and dagger in regard to his pending free agency. Maybe he will jump ship again?