NBA thread

~~Soulflower~~ · 01-30-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic

I made the argument that he would be perceived differently. What with all the increased media coverage / camera phones / etc.

There are still players with loyalty, just not LBJ. He has been really cloak and dagger in regard to his pending free agency. Maybe he will jump ship again?

I see your point and I think he will jump ship again which is why I do not think he deserves to be compared to MJ.

I think the only one that deserves to be compared to MJ is Kobe.

YorkeDaddy · 01-30-2014, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

I see your point and I think he will jump ship again which is why I do not think he deserves to be compared to MJ.

I think the only one that deserves to be compared to MJ is Kobe.

the guy who is not better than Dwyane Wade by any measure besides rings?

debaserr · 01-30-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

the guy who is not better than Dwyane Wade by any measure besides rings?

Oh no you didn't.

Wpnfire · 01-30-2014, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

I tell you one thing, MJ would not have went to another team just for a championship. He would have built a team around him like he did with the Bulls and that I greatly respect. He was not just thinking about himself.

You can make the argument that Jordan stayed with his team when they were bad, but you can't argue against the good that's come from LeBron leaving Cleveland. I mean James rarely went inside and rarely posted up like he does now. I doubt he would have even DEVELOPED his post game if he had stayed in Cleveland. He'd still probably be taking 10123812083 threes a season and doing idiotic things like that.

Just think about it: He's 6'8", 250 lbs., finishes plays at the rim like Jordan, and handles the ball and runs as well as a point guard. How he was being used and what players the management was surrounding him with were all the wrong things.

Erik Spolestra noticed what the problem was IMMEDIATELY when he got to Miami. What did James do the first two years he was in Miami?

1. He stopped taking 1000 threes a season
2. Posted up more A LOT MORE
3. Went inside A HECK OF A LOT MORE

And what happened? He shoots a higher percentage, scores just as prevalently, and does all of this while playing less minutes than he did at Cleveland. You can argue that maybe he should have stayed with him, but you CAN NOT say that he would be as successful as he is now. I mean come on, his first year in Miami they made the finals, and they weren't swept like the only other time LeBron made a finals appearance in Cleveland.

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

the guy who is not better than Dwyane Wade by any measure besides rings?

Second the notion.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 01-30-2014, 09:30 PM

Of course jordan didn't leave..... who would with scottie pippen as a teammate??

Wade is an all timer but he isn't on kobes level

Forward To Death · 01-30-2014, 09:31 PM

There's no comparison to be made, MJ led the league in points nearly ever year he played except for two years where his season was shortened, and two years with the Wizards when he was pushing 40. Even then, he still averaged over 21 PPG.

YorkeDaddy · 01-30-2014, 09:33 PM

of course jordan didnt want to leave, he had phil ****ing jackson as his coach

lebron had mike god damn brown and the only decent teammate he had was mo williams i mean lol

Wpnfire · 01-30-2014, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

of course jordan didnt want to leave, he had phil ****ing jackson as his coach

lebron had mike god damn brown and the only decent teammate he had was mo williams i mean lol

Exactly.

Moss · 01-30-2014, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

^Also, LeBron took less money so Miami could still sign other players. How does that equate to him having a large ego? Again just compare him to Kobe and you'll see he's not as bad as you might believe...

I dont even dislike Lebron (hate Kobe though), I do think the way he left Cleveland was pretty classless but he is still so you. . But his ego is too big to stay on a small market team like Cleveland. i respect Durant for trying to build something for the people that supported him and for his unselfish play and for not whining until he gets traded to L.A. or NY.

~~Soulflower~~ · 01-30-2014, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

the guy who is not better than Dwyane Wade by any measure besides rings?

01-30-2014, 09:30 PM	#1945 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	Of course jordan didn't leave..... who would with scottie pippen as a teammate?? Wade is an all timer but he isn't on kobes level

01-30-2014, 09:31 PM	#1946 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	There's no comparison to be made, MJ led the league in points nearly ever year he played except for two years where his season was shortened, and two years with the Wizards when he was pushing 40. Even then, he still averaged over 21 PPG.