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Soulflower 01-31-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1412278)
People who blame the refs for the result of a game fail. It's such a cop-out. The refs aren't Jesus Christ, so get over it.

I watched that game, and when they reviewed ray allen's three, Tim Duncan illegally substituted in the game and THE REFS never issued a technical foul on the Spurs because they didn't notice it.

And anyway, Duncan also should have been IN THE GAME TO GET REBOUNDS so Bosh couldn't tower over all the spurs players and snag one, which is exactly what happened.

The players win games, not the refs, and you can point the result of that game to Duncan not being in the game when he should have been.

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What about those two fouls in the last .5 seconds that were not called on Ray Allen and Bosh?

Are you honestly arguing that Refs do not make controversial calls?

This is a issue that affects all sports not just the NBA.

A bad call can GREATLY impact the outcome of a game.

It happens ALL the time.

butthead aka 216 01-31-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412310)
What about those two fouls in the last .5 seconds that were not called on Ray Allen and Bosh?

Are you honestly arguing that Refs do not make controversial calls?

This is a issue that affects all sports not just the NBA.

A bad call can GREATLY impact the outcome of a game.

It happens ALL the time.

wade got a ton of calls in th e'06 finals vs dallas

the lakers vs kings western finals yrs ago was rigged


other than that i dont think its rigged for any team. a ref would have to feel 100% comfortable in those calls and they werent. cause they were tough calls.



btw david stern is no longer commish. crazy how the game has changed with him as commish

Moss 01-31-2014 09:10 PM

I like the story about Kobe telling Ty Lawson "Im going to foul you now and the refs are not going to call it". And sure enough. A foul should be a foul but its not.

Soulflower 01-31-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1412311)
wade got a ton of calls in th e'06 finals vs dallas

the lakers vs kings western finals yrs ago was rigged


other than that i dont think its rigged for any team. a ref would have to feel 100% comfortable in those calls and they werent. cause they were tough calls.



btw david stern is no longer commish. crazy how the game has changed with him as commish


If Manu or Greene had of went to the free throw line and just had hit one of the shots they would have won.

The NBA is going to get their money some way or another.

I heard there were alot of bets made in Las Vegas for Miami to win which is why they did that.

But people are so gullible and take everything for face value

butthead aka 216 01-31-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412322)
If Manu or Greene had of went to the free throw line and just had hit one of the shots they would have won.

The NBA is going to get their money some way or another.

I heard there were alot of bets made in Las Vegas for Miami to win which is why they did that.

But people are so gullible and take everything for face value

if the bets were heavy on miami then the refs would have been riggin it for spurs. not tryin to be snarky, just sayin thats how it works

Soulflower 01-31-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1412324)
if the bets were heavy on miami then the refs would have been riggin it for spurs. not tryin to be snarky, just sayin thats how it works

Why would they rig it if the refs are in on it too?

The NBA are marketing Miami as the "Chicago Bulls Dream Team". They wanted a Game 7 to draw more ratings and money.

The Spurs technically should have won but the NBA purposely pushed a Game 7 to make it more entertaining and for the bets.

Betting is a million dollar investment. Although the Spurs should have won if they had of won, people would have lost ALOT of money and probably would have sued the NBA making up bs like they cheated and all that crap.

butthead aka 216 01-31-2014 09:48 PM

actually spurs covered the bettin spread so i dont think it had anythin to do with bettin tbh

Wpnfire 01-31-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412310)
What about those two fouls in the last .5 seconds that were not called on Ray Allen and Bosh?

Are you honestly arguing that Refs do not make controversial calls?

This is a issue that affects all sports not just the NBA.

A bad call can GREATLY impact the outcome of a game.

It happens ALL the time.

1. What about Tim Duncan being illegally substituted? A 6'11" 250 lbs. man should be pretty easy to notice. ALSO, it's pretty ridiculous to think Tim Duncan being illegally substituted was unintentional, so the Spurs effectively cheated. Also, I'm 99.999999999999999% sure the game wouldn't have gone into overtime if Tim Duncan had been in the game at the final seconds of regulation. You don't need to be an expert to see that. (You can go to youtube and watch those last few seconds, and the play-by-play announcers immediately hone in on why the f Tim Duncan was not in the game. Also, Leonard missed that crucial last free throw.

You see what I mean? The Spurs blew the game themselves. Steve Kerr said as much, "The Spurs straight up blew it..."

And no, I'm not arguing the refs don't make controversial calls, I AM against the idea that the refs decide the outcome of a game. 99.9% of the time, the play of the teams wholly decide which one wins and loses. Game 6 of the Western Conference finals back in 2002 (see below) being a possible example of games where the refs were woefully mistaken and may have had enough impact to alter the outcome of that series.

2. The LA-Kings series back in 2002: As far as I can see, game 6 was the only game where there were allegations of corruption. After that, the Kings gave away game 7, so losing the series was their own fault (2-20 on threes (10%!) in game 7 being case-and-point.) Game 6 WAS pretty iffy. Though the Mavs-Heat '06 series I do not believe suffered that same fate. The refs just know to look for contact with Wade because all he does is drive, and people foul him intentionally all the time as a result.

I'm sure in a few years people might say Westrbook or Rose get favorable calls cause the refs get used to looking for it. (if those two were ever healthy, especially Rose).

3. David Stern: Did you see the draft last year!? That was hysterical how much people were booing him! The only thing I have against him is the whole condensed schedule back in 2011-2012, which I think greatly deteriorated players across all the teams.

Soulflower 01-31-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1412327)
actually spurs covered the bettin spread so i dont think it had anythin to do with bettin tbh


All I know is I don't watch the NBA anymore.

I cried when they lost because it wasn't fair.

Its... its to much and then the lies... I don't support things like that


Tim deserves one more ring before he retires

YorkeDaddy 02-01-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412336)
All I know is I don't watch the NBA anymore.

I cried when they lost because it wasn't fair.

Its... its to much and then the lies... I don't support things like that


Tim deserves one more ring before he retires

"Wahhhh my team lost so it must be rigged"

How ****ing immature can someone be

I love the tears of pathetic NBA "fans". I'll just slip on my Miami Heat 2012-2013 NBA Champions t-shirt and go on with my day.

Moss 02-01-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1412385)
"Wahhhh my team lost so it must be rigged"

How ****ing immature can someone be

I love the tears of pathetic NBA "fans". I'll just slip on my Miami Heat 2012-2013 NBA Champions t-shirt and go on with my day.

On that very enlightened and well thought out note (realtalk, you show great patience and are alright in my book), I can't believe the Pacers picked up Bynum. Sure he could help the team but he could also be complete poison so why take the chance? They were fine without him.

Wpnfire 02-01-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1412435)
I can't believe the Pacers picked up Bynum. Sure he could help the team but he could also be complete poison so why take the chance? They were fine without him.

Oh it's because of Greg Oden playing for Miami. The best advantage the Pacers have against the Heat is size, and they want to keep that advantage.

Also, David West is a liability sometimes. You never know when he's going to be ejected in the 2nd quarter for a flagrant foul, so it doesn't hurt to have another big in the lineup.

YorkeDaddy 02-01-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1412435)
On that very enlightened and well thought out note (realtalk, you show great patience and are alright in my book), I can't believe the Pacers picked up Bynum. Sure he could help the team but he could also be complete poison so why take the chance? They were fine without him.

I've already gone over why she's a crybaby. The Spurs had multiple chances to win the title and couldn't. They did not deserve to win it. Pop made terrible coaching decisions, Leonard and Ginobli missed their free throws, and Ray Allen made one of the greatest shots ever while LeBron dominated game 7. Spurs got what they deserved.

butthead aka 216 02-01-2014 01:33 PM

well realtalk the nba finals werent rigged. spurs had easy chances to win and they choked it away. games 6 and 7 were masterpieces in basketball tho. it was an epic chess match. the spurs played perfect defense makin lebron shoot jumpers and lebron obliged by knockin them down


pacers just signed bynum. wowwwwww didnt see it comin

Wpnfire 02-01-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1412509)
games 6 and 7 were masterpieces in basketball tho. it was an epic chess match. the spurs played perfect defense makin lebron shoot jumpers and lebron obliged by knockin them down

Agreed. I'm good friends with a Spurs fan, and although he is obviously disappointed they didn't win, he admits it was a great series.

butthead aka 216 02-04-2014 02:50 PM

one of my fave nba gifs


https://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.ne...gif?1390697542

Wpnfire 02-04-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1413488)

:eek:LOL that is SO creepy.

Also, What is Westbrook doing wearing normal clothes?

Moss 02-05-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1413488)

That Bastard blocked Rocky's (Nuggets mascot) half court shot. Guy does have balls.

gotwarzone 02-08-2014 12:42 AM

@Moss hahaha so funny!

DonDraper 02-10-2014 10:11 PM

KD or Blake Griffin For MVP? I got my boy The Slim Reaper aka K Deezy

butthead aka 216 02-10-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DonDraper (Post 1415280)
KD or Blake Griffin For MVP? I got my boy The Slim Reaper aka K Deezy

durant will win it


griffin has really improved but its a 2 man race every yr: lebron or durant.


could take lebron any year of his career pretty much, he just does things nobody else can do

Dr_Rez 02-11-2014 08:19 AM

Durant is simply on fire right now he deserves everything and anything.

Thunder plays Portland tonight I feel like that is gonna be a good game especially since its one of the last before all star weekend.

Thom Yorke 02-11-2014 08:42 AM

Speaking of Durant, here's a 7'1 sophomore in high school that plays like him.


Moss 02-11-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1415404)
Durant is simply on fire right now he deserves everything and anything.

Thunder plays Portland tonight I feel like that is gonna be a good game especially since its one of the last before all star weekend.

Only 36 points tonight. Slacker

butthead aka 216 02-12-2014 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Thom Yorke (Post 1415414)
Speaking of Durant, here's a 7'1 sophomore in high school that plays like him.


i keep an eye on bball recruitin pretty regularly so ive know about thon maker for a few years now... i dont really understand why this vid is blowin up now. im almost positive this same exact vid was up like a year ago, maybe it just hit the right sites for the first time and it spread like wildfire?? i dunno, coulda been a diff video too.


maker is really realyl talented obviously. but i think hes just a hard worker. you dont develop those ball handlin and shootin skills at that size without serious work. it would be really easy for him to just grab boards and dunk but hes already thinkin about the future. all great things, i think this kid could be really special because of his work ethic.

YorkeDaddy 02-12-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Moss (Post 1415632)
Only 36 points tonight. Slacker

meanwhile lebron with 37 :tramp:

YorkeDaddy 02-13-2014 05:43 AM

holy mother of ****



that was ICE COLD

butthead aka 216 02-18-2014 12:40 PM

how bout that excitin dunk contest, guys!?!?

Wpnfire 02-20-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1417764)
how bout that excitin dunk contest, guys!?!?

I'm making a government petition for LeBron James to be in the next slam dunk contest, along with Blake Griffin. There are no other contestants, and this will be true as long as Blake Griffin and LeBron James are in the NBA.

butthead aka 216 02-20-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1418598)
I'm making a government petition for LeBron James to be in the next slam dunk contest, along with Blake Griffin. There are no other contestants, and this will be true as long as Blake Griffin and LeBron James are in the NBA.

Totally don't get lebrons disinterest in it. The contenders were good this yr but the format didn't work well. Ppl seemed confused.



No big deals today but I like what the sixers did a lot

YorkeDaddy 02-20-2014 04:36 PM

Pacers trade for Evan Turner for no reason. They're trying to build a super team but they're just going to hurt the locker room chemistry. There's no way Turner is going to be okay with the minutes Granger was getting (which was only 20 mpg), so he's going to be frustrated because of that. Paul George will be frustrated because his team felt the need to bring in a young up-and-coming star at the small forward position when they already have the third best player in the NBA at that position. I don't really know what the Pacers think they were doing, Turner won't be able to play enough minutes to make that big of a difference off the bench.

butthead aka 216 02-20-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1418611)
Pacers trade for Evan Turner for no reason. They're trying to build a super team but they're just going to hurt the locker room chemistry. There's no way Turner is going to be okay with the minutes Granger was getting (which was only 20 mpg), so he's going to be frustrated because of that. Paul George will be frustrated because his team felt the need to bring in a young up-and-coming star at the small forward position when they already have the third best player in the NBA at that position. I don't really know what the Pacers think they were doing, Turner won't be able to play enough minutes to make that big of a difference off the bench.

I think they felt like turner could give them the same thing as granger at a younger age n cheaper price. I can't see george bein upset just cause turner isn't gonna be a star and is already at his ceiling imo.


Pure bliss for the sixers tho. They get rid of turner who was becomin a cancer. Kudos to them for realizin he was never gonna be a star and unloadin him. Plus they needed to add some money to their rostet so they add granger on an expirin deal. They traded hawes too which is a plus for them. Sixers were the deadline winner imo

YorkeDaddy 02-20-2014 04:46 PM

Are you a Sixers fan?

I don't think there's any question that the Sixers are in a great position. They are basically writing the book on how to rebuild a franchise. It might not look that way right now what with them having an absolutely atrocious team atm lol, but watch out in 3-4 years.

People forget that they still have Nerlens Noel on their team, a guy who could have a Tim Duncan-like skillset. They also have the chosen one MCW and they're gonna have more draft picks than anyone could ever dream of, one of which will likely be in the top 3 of what is the most loaded draft since 2003. Sixers fans should be pretty hype. Draft Wiggins/Parker/Randle and watch them become the next dynasty once the current superstars like LeBron, Durant, CP3 etc all start to get too old to dominate.

butthead aka 216 02-20-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1418621)
Are you a Sixers fan?

I don't think there's any question that the Sixers are in a great position. They are basically writing the book on how to rebuild a franchise. It might not look that way right now what with them having an absolutely atrocious team atm lol, but watch out in 3-4 years.

People forget that they still have Nerlens Noel on their team, a guy who could have a Tim Duncan-like skillset. They also have the chosen one MCW and they're gonna have more draft picks than anyone could ever dream of, one of which will likely be in the top 3 of what is the most loaded draft since 2003. Sixers fans should be pretty hype. Draft Wiggins/Parker/Randle and watch them become the next dynasty once the current superstars like LeBron, Durant, CP3 etc all start to get too old to dominate.

I'm a bit of a sixers fan. I used to live in the philly area. Really im just a big nba fan and appreciate the game. Im not big on noel cause I think he brings no offensive gm but it wasva putrid draft. Love mcw and sixers have set themself up with multiple 1st rounders includin a top pick in a top heavy and deep draft. Also have a handful of 2nd rounders they will prob use on euros who they can stash overseas for a few yrs. Just overall love what they are doin.

Of the college guys it will be a wild draft nite. I really like embiid n parker. I thnk randle is a step below and could be a bust. And wiggins hasn't impressed me but he has moments where I see his superstar potential, mainly in his midrange. He will become a superstar but I'm not sure if id take him or parker.

Wpnfire 02-20-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1415828)
meanwhile lebron with 37 :tramp:

I was at the Mavs-Heat game in Dallas on Tuesday where the Heat were actually behind in the fourth quarter, and they went on an 8-0 run with LeBron scoring all 8 of those points, including two consecutive threes, and a fastbreak layup. He finished with 42 points, 4+ dunks, and I believe he made more threes than Ray Allen and Mario Chalmers. One of the threes was after a change in possession, as if LeBron was a spot up guy.

Fittingly enough, I found LeBron to be more intimidating as a basketball player in real life.

Also it was one of the greatest offenses for the Big Three with Bosh, LeBron, and Wade all combining for (I think) 75+ points!

The heat just ravaged the Mavs. in the last 7 minutes of the game, and won by 12. Chris Andersen even made a three at the end! lol

Absolutely TERRIBLE defense by the Heat though. In one possession, the mavs got 5 offensive rebounds.
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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1417764)
how bout that excitin dunk contest, guys!?!?

How bout that allstar game? It was actually pretty good there at the end! I think Kyrie Irving was using the opportunity to show that him and LeBron would be a great team if LBJ came back to Cleveland next year. lol

YorkeDaddy 02-20-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1418626)
I'm a bit of a sixers fan. I used to live in the philly area. Really im just a big nba fan and appreciate the game. Im not big on noel cause I think he brings no offensive gm but it wasva putrid draft. Love mcw and sixers have set themself up with multiple 1st rounders includin a top pick in a top heavy and deep draft. Also have a handful of 2nd rounders they will prob use on euros who they can stash overseas for a few yrs. Just overall love what they are doin.

Of the college guys it will be a wild draft nite. I really like embiid n parker. I thnk randle is a step below and could be a bust. And wiggins hasn't impressed me but he has moments where I see his superstar potential, mainly in his midrange. He will become a superstar but I'm not sure if id take him or parker.

It's tough to gauge Noel since he's only 19. The key there is that I think he has the length and athleticism to dominate on pure talent alone, and if he can develop a post game (which he has plenty of time to do), then I think he'll be a serious threat. Plus his hair adds like four more inches so he's basically like 7'3".

I personally think Philly should focus their pick on someone that can definitively shoot really well. MCW is a serious threat on drives and mixing him up with a wing that can drain 'em from the corner would make a seriously good duo, which is why I think Parker is probably better for Philly if he's available for their pick; Wiggins only seems to use his athleticism rather than skill whilst I think Parker has serious skills.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1418627)
I was at the Mavs-Heat game in Dallas on Tuesday where the Heat were actually behind in the fourth quarter, and they went on an 8-0 run with LeBron scoring all 8 of those points, including two consecutive threes, and a fastbreak layup. He finished with 42 points, 4+ dunks, and I believe he made more threes than Ray Allen and Mario Chalmers. One of the threes was after a change in possession, as if LeBron was a spot up guy.

Fittingly enough, I found LeBron to be more intimidating as a basketball player in real life.

Also it was one of the greatest offenses for the Big Three with Bosh, LeBron, and Wade all combining for (I think) 75+ points!

The heat just ravaged the Mavs. in the last 7 minutes of the game, and won by 12. Chris Andersen even made a three at the end! lol

Absolutely TERRIBLE defense by the Heat though. In one possession, the mavs got 5 offensive rebounds.

How bout that allstar game? It was actually pretty good there at the end! I think Kyrie Irving was using the opportunity to show that him and LeBron would be a great team if LBJ came back to Cleveland next year. lol

That was an amazing game. Apparently Mavs players on the sideline were taunting LeBron and saying he couldn't shoot, which is when LeBron promptly started to pull up and drain three after three in the fourth quarter. Sometimes LeBron just plays out of his mind like that and other times he's too passive, I don't know why it's like that.

Dr_Rez 02-20-2014 06:00 PM

Wpn fire, I think that is pretty normal seeing a defending champ/first teir team being lazy all game then turning it on in the fourth. I think it is just their way of resting the players so the season isnt as strenuous. I can;t tell you how many heat games I have seen where Lebron/Wade go and score an absurd amount and take of the game with 10 minutes left.

I really think that OKC depending on how Westbrook plays with Durant is going to beat the Spurs for the Western Conference this year. If the Heat can get past the Pacers I think a Heat OKC rematch would be amazing to watch. What series would you like to see for the championship[?

butthead aka 216 02-20-2014 06:09 PM

Id love okc vs heat. Okc is an insane team with westy back and adding a quality big like adams


Wpn ur very lucky. That was a great game. Dallas surprisingly holds their own despite a roster of old guys and castoffs. Miami has been extra lazy this yr mainly on defense. Theyre a scary team when they turn it on but they shouldn't have to til the east finals vs indy



Yorke I hope noel gets an offense game but I'm not optimistic. There are remarkably few bigs who develop offensive games for whatever reason but I think he can be a legit defender. Im just not big on hI'm but maybe cause he followed anthony davis who's a stud

Mcw noel and a top 3 pick plus another early first rounder is a great future tho. And I hope they keep thad young csuse he's a guy who the youngins can really learn a lot from imo

Dr_Rez 02-23-2014 03:21 PM

If this last OKC Heat game is showing how the series would p lay out I sure hope it isnt those 2 teams. Can you say boring as **** finals, over in 4.

Wpnfire 02-23-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1419471)
If this last OKC Heat game is showing how the series would p lay out I sure hope it isnt those 2 teams. Can you say boring as **** finals, over in 4.

When I saw Miami vs. Dallas on Wednesday, the lineup for the Heat at one point was Chalmers, Wade/Allen, James, Bosh, and Greg Oden.

Greg Oden is gradually splitting more and more of Andersen's minutes, as well as Battier's so Bosh can move down and play the four. Wade has also missed a dozen games so far this season so he can rest his knees for the playoffs.

Imagine what this lineup is capable of when Miami is playing all-out defense during the playoffs?

So no, I don't think a regular season series is any good indication.


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